Wednesday, March 12, 2014

You want to make the V-22 a gunship? Learn from history!


The latest and greatest on the Commandant's wish list is to turn the MV-22 into a gunship.

We've seen it modded to act as an aerial refuel-er.  Its being pitched as a Carrier On-Board Delivery Vehicle.  We've seen proposals for it to act as a baby AWACs so a gunship version shouldn't be seen as far fetched.

But how do you do it?

History has the answer but the aviation community won't like it.  A quick blast to the past....
Pic via Vietnam Huey
1967 - UH-1E gunship VMO-6 A UH-1E gunship with VMO-6 based at Ky Ha near Chu Lai (I Corps) in 1967. VMO-6 was tasked with flying armed escort for Marine transport helicopters, so most of their Hueys during this period were gunships. Marine rotary aircraft during this period wore more subdued markings. The high visibility yellow tail boom band has been removed. The aircraft number is painted in flat black on both the frame behind the pilots' doors and the tail. The national emblem has also been removed from the aircraft. The only high visibility markings that remain are the red step covers and vertical stripes on the cabin sides and engine cowling. Like most Marine UH-1Es, this aircraft has a tail boom-mounted antenna and rounded housing on the cabin roof.
The evolution of the Huey into the Cobra tells us how to get where we want to go without wasting time or money (initial outlays might be higher but the end result will be achieved much sooner thereby lowering costs...hey, it works with the F-35 right?).
1989 Boeing Vertol AV-22-LSOC Ghost
by melkorius

My idea is simple.  Skip the Huey phase of development (as seen in the great illustration above) and lets go straight to the guns.  Lose the cargo area and slim down that fuselage to practically nothing.  Upgrade the engines to put out more power.  Put the pilots in tandem instead of side by side.  The aim?  To have as narrow a plane as possible.  Additionally you add the pylons from the AH-1Z onto this beast, its chin turret too, use the same targeting FLIR etc...and we call it a day.  Yeah, we're developing a new wrapping but the bits are coming from stuff we have in service.

The amazing thing?  We've already seen concepts that strike pretty close to the mark.  All we need are some designers to do the 1960's thing and put the MV-22 on a diet.

Bell D-314F
The truly depressing part of all this?

Even if my recommendation is followed and they do the MV-22 gunship in the mold of the Huey/Cobra conversion you're still going to be left with one undeniable truth.

It still won't be as effective as a Super Tucano...and will be much more expensive too...


10 comments :

  1. I still think the side mounted pods that Eurocopter puts on its choppers like the NH-90 and Puma family would be the best solution.

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    1. yeah i've seen those but i wonder. will that truly make a gunship or are you simply adding a bit of firepower that might be better used in hauling more stuff.

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  2. The best Gunships were the T-28 Trojans that my father flew for the Royal Lao Air force. Though I think a pure gunship like the AC-47 would fit the bill for V-22.

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    1. i've been wanting to do that SUPER T-28 Trojan you sent me info on but lost it.

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    2. Trojans were good but no where near AD-1s when in came to firepower and endurance

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  3. Salomão:

    Supertucano é uma mistura do "Zero" japonês com "Supermarine Spitfire".
    Uma mosca que chupa sangue.
    hehe.

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    1. qualquer que seja suas características de projeto seu provavelmente o instrumento mais necessário na guerra contra o terror que passou os EUA. todo mundo diz a inclinação para o Pacífico, mas esquecer que SOCOM irá precisar fechar apoio aéreo

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  4. Flyaway cost of barebones V-22 is $70 million.

    Fly away cost of a Super Tucano is between $9-14 million. THat would be the dumbest thing the USMC could do.

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  5. About as smart as redesigning the CH-53 into a super cobra type gunship.
    The Tucano is my choice, why does the V-22 need a gunship mod?
    It's design works best as a cargo/troop hauler.

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