This letter to the editor in the Armed Force Journal says it all...
Well said Mr. Kleinberg. Unfortunately the "Horde" of spinners, and deceivers about this program will never listen to reasoned debate.F-35B’s true missionLt. Cmdr. Perry Solomon, [“Hovering at a precipice”, July/Aug AFJ] missed the mark in his criticism of the Marine Corps’ all-in selection of the F-35B STOVL as being unnecessary and the wrong choice.The author seems to have either misunderstood or merely forgotten the Marine Corps’ primary mission. The article also centers on the dangerous assumption that the U.S. will always have air superiority in all future conflicts. Operations Desert Storm and Iraqi Freedom are cited as the only evidence for this contention, a sampling that is too selective and incomplete.The F-35B, like the Harrier before it, was predicated on the very opposite assumption: that peer (or locally superior adversaries) will either attain air superiority or the next worst thing, the capacity to target and disable/deny access to all friendly airbases or airports. The true archetypical modern-era scenario comes not from Desert Storm, but from the high-intensity battle envisaged during the Cold War, in which Soviet and Warsaw-Pact forces would first have struck all U.S. and NATO air bases, disrupting, debilitating, or perhaps outright denying NATO its vital airpower.In this adverse scenario, short take-off and vertical landing (STOVL) combat aircraft would be immune to the loss of airfields, continuing to conduct combat operations while operating from easily and quickly relocated dispersal sites around the battlefield. It was for this very reason that the British Harrier “jump-jet” was created and deployed, and for the same reasons that the Marines obtained so many copies.Such threats are very much in play today. The Chinese People’s Liberation Army’s doctrine is similarly based on ballistic- and cruise-missile saturation attacks, alongside aircraft-delivered precision guided missile (PGM) strikes, on all Taiwanese and regionally “friendly” airbases, out as far as Japan, South Korea and even to Guam. PLA doctrine also calls for attacks on American nuclear aircraft carriers and their escorting carrier battle groups. Thus, both U.S. land-based and naval airpower may be denied in-theater access in a future conflict with China, at least in the crucial early stages, as posited by the CSBA’s “Air-Sea-Battle” document of 2010.Ironically, this adverse scenario is one in which the F-35B is not only meant to continue fighting, but the option the Marines are already opting for, en masse. Indeed, the F-35B STOVL combat aircraft might be the only combat plane still able to fly, fight and win, on or near a target zone such as a Taiwan under attack, siege or occupation.Unlike the author’s assumptions of guaranteed air superiority, the Marines always plan, equip and train to fight and win in even the most adverse scenarios. They cannot and do not assume that they will have air superiority and leisurely fly-ins to regional airbases or conventional carriers just outside the immediate combat zone. Their primary, mission-generating case studies include Guadalcanal, Iwo Jima and Inchon, not just Desert Storm and OIF. To that end, they are opting for a penetrating combat aircraft that can deploy forward into hostile territory with as much vital airpower as possible with their amphibious and land-borne elements. Also, unlike conventional combat aircraft (including the Navy’s F-35Cs), F-35Bs can operate off Navy LPD ships and helicopter carriers, increasing dispersal, survivability and combined-arms forces’ effectiveness by a factor of many times.The Marine Corps’ all-F-35B force gives some badly needed redundancy, robustness and flexibility to the Air-Sea-Battle Operations Concept.— Howard Kleinberg, defense systems engineer-analyst, Department of Public and International Affairs, University of North Carolina, Wilmington, N.C.
Like jihadist, they are locked into a belief system that has them chained to a course of action in which they seem to have lost control.
It's called a "pre-determined end point argument".
ReplyDeleteThey've already decided the F-35 is no good, based on what they think a fighter should be so every argument has to be twisted around to fit this end point.
To make this happen they therefore lie, bullschitt and deceive others to try and make everyone else believe the same rubbish.
It is honestly quite pathetic. I do sit back and quitely chuckle at their antics though. The fact that they've carried on like this for more than a decade now and absolutely NOTHING has changed as they might wish is hilarious.
That their own neurosis is largely responsible for the complete lack of effect their arguments have on anyone that actually matters and are becoming increasingly bitter, twisted and antagonistic as the likelyhood of their "dream" becoming a reality is merely the cherry on top of the icing.
Carl Jung (1964:33) said it best about these sort of people:
"He hears and does not hear; he sees, yet is blind; he knows and is ignorant."
Er, insert '"dream" becoming a reality fades away' in there and you'll get what I meant. Dang lack of an edit feature...
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AD.
So the PLA will be able to use saturation attacks and take out all airfields of ours in the region, take out all capabilities of any allied nations in the region and take out all of the capabilties of the Carrier groups we could get to the Western Pacific. Am I missing something here. A advisery capable of doing all this and they miss the USMC MAGTFs, of what 60 F-35Bs, scathered among their various Amphib ships. Are we all missing something here? Have the Marines been building secret stealth submarine aircraft carriers without telling anyone? If the PLA just attacks the USMC only at first will everyone else just quit and go home? I'm just a Infantry officer, but "somethings rotten in Denmark". I hope we equip all of our branches with the best equipment possible and if that is the F-35B lets get it ASAP. But the author's lack of perspective to reality is what does not pass the smell test. Just another example of why the dislocated elbow is the most common injury in the USMC, just goes out too often while patting yourself on the back.
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AMAZING.
Good retort. I missed that one. There was a more complete ‘Fisking’ of LTCdr Solomon's views in the October issue of AFJ: http://armedforcesjournal.com/2010/10/4765181/
ReplyDeleteThis is all sooo familiar. The last time a 'Naval' drumbeat started telling the Marines what they needed, the Marines got the boot off the F-14 production queue and received the privilege of subsidizing the Navy's future F/A-18 project. The Marines would have had a ‘Bombcat’ about 30 years before the Navy thought about it as a hook to keep their F-14s relevant.
now that would have been a keeper. an F-14 bombcat! i bet that would still be in production if the Marines got a chance at that one.
ReplyDeletenow imagine that airplane with F-18 avionics!
Now we do not agree on alot, but I was in A-stan in Oct thru Dec 2001. The only Aircraft that had the long legs to get to Northern Afghanistan with any loitering time was the F-14D. With a couple of JDAMs underslung, it was the best. A F-14E/F "BombCat" would be a great asset today. The SU-34 "Fullback" is proof of the concept.
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