Tuesday, April 26, 2011

Who makes these charts????

I was cruising the web and happened across ELP's site.

God, ELP, tell me that someone gave you this chart!  Please tell me that you didn't come up with this rating yourself!  If you did, please tell me that you were in some drug induced haze which gave you "a total indifference to what is real!"

This is the most amazing thing I've seen in a long time ---- The F-35 is more at risk against legacy surface to air than gen 4 aircraft????

In air to air combat (vs 4th gen) the F-35 will be more vulnerable than the Gripen, Rafale and Typhoon?  What makes this even more laughable is the fact that with the exception of cost, he rates the Super Hornet inferior to every other airplane being made...except the Silent Eagle...which is still just a concept.

Wow.

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  1. Amazing isn't it? The poor fellow hasn't really a clue, which is why he retreats to the top of his ivory tower whenever challenged on any of the ridiculous nonsense he comes up with...

    Super Hornets are "high risk" compared to SU-xx are they? Well they're off to Exercise Bersama Lima on Friday to see just how "at risk" they really are, against Malaysia's SU-30's...

    If one listened to Eric, they don't stand a chance and shouldn't even bother going...

    Of course, real world pilots and ACO's don't bother listening to photographers, long retired Flight Test engineers, nor cellular phone engineers on what their capability actually is...

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  2. nicely said AD, you always put it in perspective.

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  3. Thanks mate. I do what I can, but those fruit-loops live in a completely different world.

    One where everything that the Chinese or Russians do works perfectly and costs nothing, whilst offering unbelievable capability and everything the West does, sucks unless it measures up to their idyllic view of what a capability should be.

    The ironic thing is, they don't even truly understand what a capability is. They think it's the ability to fly at 55,000 feet or to fly at Mach 2.5.

    As you know it isn't it. A capability is the entire chain from pilot, ACO and maintainers training, logistical support, Intell support, Operational Test and Evaluation, individual and collective training levels, mission planning, force multiplier capability and allied and coalition supporting capabilities.

    A fighter may be the tip of the spear, but it is the haft of the spear that makes or breaks the capability.

    These fools are institutionally incapable of understanding that and everything they write shows their lack of understanding in ever deepening ways.

    It's actually amusing at times...

    Regards,

    AD

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  4. When I saw the chart I immediately saw the F-35 hating fingers of Dr. Carlo Copp at work. I always find his work humorous when he compares F-35 capabilities to current aircraft. Like he knows. Most of the capabilites of the F-35 are classified! The critics, for the most part, are just speculating with a large dose of personal bias.

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  6. If I were a betting man, I would bet $100 that someone at Air Power Australia made this so called chart. I am an opponent of the F-35 program but, even I know that an F-35 is better than a F/A-18E/F or Gripen.

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  7. The F-35 against legacy S2A at medium while all others are at low seems rather odd. Also, the SH is inferior.

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  8. I'd say Eric made it. He knows better or at least should from his contact with USAF over the years, but he has fallen in with their nonsense and basically become the "mouth" of APA, parroting whatever garbage they happen to be spewing this week.

    These lot pay great head to the GAO when it sides with their belief, but they pick and choose only that which suits their point of view...

    Wonder what they think of GAO, when they write that the F-35 will be 50% more capable than the Super Hornet Block II?

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/report/gao/d04900.pdf

    (Page - 11).

    Nah, they and the Dept of Navy couldn't be correct, could they? Eric's chart was way more colourful...

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  10. The line: "I really tried to give the F-35 more points" Suggests that he wrote it himself.

    I can't say I will stand on his side on the barricades, even though I 'm for obvious reasons not a fanboy, but I believe there are actually some boxes that are correct.

    http://raf-fly.blogspot.com/2011/04/how-was-he-thinking.html

    But that the F-35 is that bad is just wishful thinking. IMHO.
    Best Regards
    /RAF

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