Friday, June 03, 2011
The Frech JHSV Killer...the Multi-Purpose Patrol Craft 2.
The Multi-Purpose Patrol Craft 2 looks (on paper I know) to be a better JHSV. Not only can it perform the same missions as the JHSV but it can also land gear directly on the beach and then turn around and perform the patrol mission...
I like it.
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ahh check the specs. MPC2 is smaller, less capacity, less endurance, lees troop load,no helo deck, etc etc.
ReplyDeleteI do like the CMIM L-Cat aka REC which the French Navy is buying to support amphib ops
ahhh you check the specs....no dock needed...able to launch small boats....yeah its a winner in my book.
ReplyDeleteJHSV's are in my opinion ships in search of missions....the Marines started the entire ball of wax by looking for a different form of transportation for the trips to Korea and the main island...
tell me...if JHSV's are so valuable then why don't you see them operating everywhere? at least this ship has a multi mission mindset.
Well, the JHSV has a mission, as was trialled during 2009 (iirc) with the various leased HSV-types, including TSV Arrowhead (fmr MV Shannon Alexis), the US Army's I Corps support vessel.
ReplyDeleteJHSV is slated to replace the US Army's LCU-2000 and others in support of intra-theater lift. Think moving Army forces instead of conducting actual (USMC) amphib assaults.
The idea was a cheaper, more multi-functional design could replace a big chunk of the current (Army element) MPF fleet; turning 'connectors' into 'main assets' themselves, as it were.
The LCAT shows promise as a potential JHSV, just don't turn it into a full-blown amphib with helo-deck, weapons and what not. JHSVs should remain a no-nonsense Army theater support vessel, and not a USN 'gator'.
uh you do realize that the Army gave up their JHSV's to the Navy right?
ReplyDeleteYup, I'm just jabbering (as usual) about the JHSV's mission - or at least what it was supposed to be.
ReplyDeleteHeck, the Army's "LCU-Plus replacement" is still a requirement, and the USN is/was/should be operating JHSVs on behalf of the Army.
Or so the PPT went.
The US Army's Besson class LSTs will have to soldier on a little longer, but will require a proper replacement eventually. JHSV is/was suppose to fill that role as well.
This LCAT would be perfect.
WTF did you just say?
ReplyDeleteMarcase to my knowledge the JHSV are not replacing either the LSV or LCU2000 of the Army. Souce pls?
ReplyDeleteThe JSHV is a combination of rqmts from the Navy, Army and Marines.
L-Cat aka ERD-A and PASCAT are uniquely designed to fit Royal and French Navy ships. The RN for instance has had large what they rate as LCM Mk10s for years now. Pascat is meant to complement those. The French have conventional LCM-8s and the L-Cat is meant to go up a notch.
The specs for JHSV show a much more capable ship than L-Cat or MPC.
BTW the USN project for LCU(R)was dropped. Perhaps because JHSV covered the rqmt but certainly not because a conventional landing craft was not needed. The USN needs both types and LESS LCAC aka SSC. More Ford F-150 and less Cadillac SUVs.
P.S. the US Army is supposdely getting out of the ocean going ship mission all together. Look for LSVs and LCU2000 to go over the MSC or the Navy.
Solomon, the JHSV will be operating "everywhere" and will be forward deployed as well as prepositioned with MPFrons. The JHSVs will be used not only for Navy missions, but also to support JOINT service missions. They JHSV may well take over the WestPac Express mission to suport III MEF. The JHSV will take over USAVs missions in Far East, and at other RSAs at least that was the last Army plan I saw.
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