that's a bit later in history...but to be honest the Romans acted stupidly. they could have easily made alliances with the Germanic tribes...they viewed them as primitives though and that caused them to not take them as seriously as they should have.
this movie was horribly inaccurate of greek fighting styles, the Spartans were great soliders, but they didnt go to battle bare chested, they had some of the best armor in the ancient world. Also when they piled the bodies up and fought hand to hand was horribly inaccurate, they would never have broken phalanx until they were out flanked. also the true number of people left in the pass was over a thousand because they had slaves as warriors, thespians and thebans are said to have stayed to fight with them, they acted as a blocking force in the past to let the other city states to evacuate athens to the island of Salamis and fortify the isthmus of corinth. they also mis-represted the storm, the storm before the battle wasnt off Thermopylae, it was off the coast of greece further south (Euobea), Xerxes had sent to outflank the army, the Athenian navy was acting as a blocking force preventing them from coming in via the north to outflank. look up the older version of the movie, 300 spartans, much better representation of the battle, or the last stand of the 300 from the history channel, a documentary that looks at what really happened.
Yes. My point is that certain quotes promote a mindset of going against tanks with a toothpick (didn't the Poles do something similar in WWII?). It does give us great stories, but I'd rather be singing the glorious deaths of the _other_ team. My people are not there do die gloriously on my behalf, they're there to make another poor bastard die for his.
My point, precisely. They gave us great stories of people going against a tank with a grenade on their saber. Makes for a great movie but it's not a good way to win a war.
I think the Romans and the northern tribes did some brainstorming on this, yes.
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that's a bit later in history...but to be honest the Romans acted stupidly. they could have easily made alliances with the Germanic tribes...they viewed them as primitives though and that caused them to not take them as seriously as they should have.
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ReplyDeletethis movie was horribly inaccurate of greek fighting styles, the Spartans were great soliders, but they didnt go to battle bare chested, they had some of the best armor in the ancient world. Also when they piled the bodies up and fought hand to hand was horribly inaccurate, they would never have broken phalanx until they were out flanked. also the true number of people left in the pass was over a thousand because they had slaves as warriors, thespians and thebans are said to have stayed to fight with them, they acted as a blocking force in the past to let the other city states to evacuate athens to the island of Salamis and fortify the isthmus of corinth. they also mis-represted the storm, the storm before the battle wasnt off Thermopylae, it was off the coast of greece further south (Euobea), Xerxes had sent to outflank the army, the Athenian navy was acting as a blocking force preventing them from coming in via the north to outflank. look up the older version of the movie, 300 spartans, much better representation of the battle, or the last stand of the 300 from the history channel, a documentary that looks at what really happened.
ReplyDeleteYes. My point is that certain quotes promote a mindset of going against tanks with a toothpick (didn't the Poles do something similar in WWII?). It does give us great stories, but I'd rather be singing the glorious deaths of the _other_ team. My people are not there do die gloriously on my behalf, they're there to make another poor bastard die for his.
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yeah i think the Poles had a few brigades on horseback, didnt go so well against German panzers.
ReplyDeleteMy point, precisely. They gave us great stories of people going against a tank with a grenade on their saber. Makes for a great movie but it's not a good way to win a war.
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