Gun Websites put up this video and I'm glad they did. The weapon doesn't belong to GW or James Yeager...Yeager was giving one his contractor classes and the guys gun broke.
I'm sure they're laughing about it at home but think about the person that bought this gun.
He bought a Short Barreled Rifle that requires a ATF Tax Stamp to own. More than likely he waited a couple of months for his rifle to get built.
He probably ran a few rounds through it before taking it to class---and then before the day of the training he probably took it out for a good cleaning.
Then the poor bastard didn't even re-assemble his rifle correctly or do simple function tests on it.
That's Marine Corps 101. That old saying about being able to re-assemble your weapon blind folded and all that jazz.
That's why I sometimes question those in the prepper movement. Don't get me wrong. I believe in being prepared and not depending on government during times of emergency...but I can't help but wonder if alot of the people involved aren't just gun collectors that are looking for a reason to justify the hobby.
Either way here's a link to the Spikes Tactical. Info. Price.
As far as i'm concerned you shouldn't be firing a weapon at all until you know how to properly assemble and clean it!
ReplyDeletetotally agree, but many are being sold the idea that they can attend a gun class and come out gun slingers. many don't even have a clue about weapons but after the class they want to educate everyone...don't believe me? check out the writer over at KitUp. the guy went to one class and suddenly he knows everything about everything. he's the type to go out, shoot someone and then wonder why he's spending the rest of his life in jail.
DeleteGuarantee there are a lot of AR shooters who can't even break down their BCG.
ReplyDeleteP.S. That lower is incompatible with the new PMAGs
really? i'm gona have to check with that. is it the lower, the mags or is it something more general?
DeleteIt's the large, fixed trigger guard...
Deletehttp://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2012/11/19/magpul-m3-pmag-compatibility-issues/
Or Magpul's lack of planning for a large, fixed trigger guard.
Either way, there is something to be said for "milspec" (or staying close to it).
If you come to my house with a $1,000 6920 I have mags, ammo, cleaning kits, and parts we can share.
Show up with some of these new botique ARs and you're SOL (no pun intended).
I have wondered about the blurring between the US gun hobby and prep'ing. Some of the latter group are very sensible, very methodical, and are to be admired in many ways. But some are naive, stupid, or both. There is a big difference between waving a gun under somebody's nose to persuade them to leave and infantry warfare. I wonder why some spend on $2k on weapon and hardly shoot it or know how to strip it. At least the guy in the video was taking some training. I think many would be better spending $800 on a S&W Sport and the other $1200 on ammunition and training. Infantry warfare is a team game and it is a young healthy man's game too. I think if SHTF (odd expression) then many preppers will die just as the unprepared will die too. Too many variables.
ReplyDeleteyep. i believe in preparing for SHTF but also think that sidearms will be the primary weapon...unless you have an LA Riots type situation, then its time for the AR...but Katrina and Sandy type stuff is all about having it with you when you need it and that means Glock.
DeleteYep. A man with a gun isn't going to stop a mob of thousands. But in those situations where there has been a temporary breakdown in order like you say Katrina and Sandy a handgun will be sufficient. Perhaps more of a signal of intent and capability than anything else; I deterrent I suppose. A long arm would attract too much attention (perhaps from officialdom) and would be too cumbersome. A long arm is a going to fight, want to fight, gun.
DeleteOne of things that does make me laugh in those prepper run and gun videos is those chaps who are a bit, well, fat. OK too fat. A SHTF situation will be in the opening phases just like war and war is a 24/7 business. A serious wound will be just as a good as an outright kill because their won't be the medical back-up. Pushing you fat body around a range once a month at best is as about much use as spending on a paint ball course.
wow. you're nailing it! hey i accept that life happens but when you realize that you're fat and disgusting, you have to decide to make changes. the idea that you're fat and disgusting and aren't taking steps to improve AND you talk about being prepared for SHTF makes me laugh, shake my head and laugh again.
Deletethe biggest killers will be lack of medical care (like you said), infections that go untreated and then accidents (like roofs caving in on people that are seeking shelter).
Long story short...a bunch of these guys are hobbyist not actual preppers.
I am not ex-military but I have been exposed to enough of it to be able compare "tacticool-all-the-gear-no-idea" operators to the real thing. Having spent a lot of time around Marines (ours not yours) I am able to spot the difference between the real deal and wannabes. The former don't go for complicated flash kit, but go for functionality, quality, and simplicity. The former only use military speak when it is really need it and don't use ponce phrases like "Send it...."
DeleteA good sign that you might be overweight or in other words a disgusting fat body is when you grow a marsupial pouch around your neck. Just sayin.
ReplyDeleteSolomon: my initial shit talking on the Beavers/Ducks game sure made me look like a huge PEE-NAS. I really don't like the Ducks, but its a good team.
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This is all fascinating to here about. I've seen bits and bobs about these preppers, but its obviously not something you see over in the UK so its all quite alien to me. Over in the UK the only people you hear of using a handgun or AR who hasn't been professionally trained are drug dealers and inner city lowlifes generally.
ReplyDeleteI'd say that in terms of any situation where SHTF it'd probably be more beneficial to you to be in at least some semblance of shape than to be a top run and gun marksman. That being said I wouldn't mind having access to a weapon if something did go down, but then unlike most people here I'd have training to rely on beyond copying Call of Duty.
you get it too. it does no good to trade one type of dependence for another. having a warrior mindset is the key.
Deletethe Marine Corps takes pride in saying 'ONE MIND, ANY WEAPON'...but its time to do a post on this stuff.
Hello fellow Brit! CoD or airsoft or paintball or laser tag bare no relation to real world warfare. And yep you are right about inner city lowlifes. They would die rather quickly too if they came up against a trained force. The reason why say the IRA were successful in some of their endeavours was because they had ex-military amongst their number. If SHTF here in the UK I think our best option would be too bug in as preppers say. I live on the edge of largish conurbation in what is now a semi-rural location; luckily with a good hill between us and the town. I am hoping that situation would burn itself out before reaching us. And that the mass would stay in one place because really in the UK there is nowhere to go. I would like two years of food, water, and fuel; I would like to increase my "security" options too. But I am looking at being a bit more realistic and aiming for 6 months. My big fear is pandemic. And 6 months should see most diseases run their course.
DeleteSteve, indeed they don't bear any relation to it. You attmept to give a section battle order on a paintball field and people will look at you like an idiot....then get shot.
ReplyDeleteEven the IRA had to rely on insurgent tactics largely, when coming up in a typical military engagement they were easily defeated generally.
In terms of SHTF in the UK, i'd say your idea of heading for a rural locale is the best chance you'd have, even though we don't have as much to play with as the Yanks. In terms of water and fuel, plenty of places you could hole up near a river (bring puritabs mind!), and a woodland. Plenty of rural houses that run on solid fuel Agas and fireplaces still about. Security is a little more difficult, but in a rural area owning a shotgun/rifle license doesnt look too suspicious.
Yep. But there are approximately 70 million of us; I don't hold with HMG's figure of 60 million. To be honest I don't know what would happen to the mass of the population. As shelter is primary driver in survival scenarios "you" (the generic not the specific!) would be silly to leave home. It would be easy for HMG to close down the motorway system. Though I see your point about country houses being off grid. Here we have the situation where some are on propane in an area on gas because the gas main didn't reach them until decades afterwards. I remember two houses near me going on to mains electric only about 20 years back. But in terms of food the countryside would be a desert just like the inner city. Most of us live week to week with visits to the supermarket just long city people. Some may keep a stock in but they will be exception. The idea we all garden and keep hens is a bit off. And those who do mostly play at it. Actually many local farms out in the countryside aren't farms now but yuppy flats. The sort who have their groceries delivered and always eat out.
DeleteAs for firearms yes it is common here to own a shotgun, .22lr, and even something heavier for foxes. It is becoming less common here, but only because we have estates being built that dilute our numbers. As I said above one guy with a gun isn't much use against a mob. If anything did happen I can see the gun ownership in rural areas being a driver in organisation. Our three local clay shoots have a combined membership of approaching 200. And they will be sort of numbers you would need to "defend" a village 24/7.