SOFREP has an article on Recon. Its a good read and worth your time.
But I have a bigger question if anyone will take me up on it.
By its very name Recon is outmoded and probably miss named. We use other means that don't risk life or limb to conduct recon now. They should revert to the WW2 name of Marine Raiders. But that's just ignoring the real issue.
The real question is this. How does Recon fit into the modern Marine Corps. These are Recon missions (via Wikipedia too late in the night to drag out manuals)....
I don't need or want the drama but I would like an answer. If you have one then feel free to post a comment or even hit me up on my e-mail.
This is an issue that won't be wished away and if you think that the last 12 years of conflict are going to change minds then you're wrong. We were set on a path by Rumsfield that I don't think we're off yet. He wanted a high tech force with far fewer people in the services. That will include SOCOM and Recon unless a real answer to why we need them can be found.
But I have a bigger question if anyone will take me up on it.
By its very name Recon is outmoded and probably miss named. We use other means that don't risk life or limb to conduct recon now. They should revert to the WW2 name of Marine Raiders. But that's just ignoring the real issue.
The real question is this. How does Recon fit into the modern Marine Corps. These are Recon missions (via Wikipedia too late in the night to drag out manuals)....
These are the main missions that are outlined to some, or all of, the reconnaissance assets in the Marine Corps:Again I'm not trying to start a fight.Done by drones and other means now.
- Plan, coordinate, and conduct amphibious-ground reconnaissance and surveillance to observe, identify, and report enemy activity, and collect other information of military significance.
The US Army calls this a pathfinder mission. In US Army parlance this is specialized training...found in many if not all Infantry units.
- Conduct specialized surveying to include: underwater reconnaissance and/or demolitions, beach permeability and topography, routes, bridges, structures, urban/rural areas, helicopter landing zones (LZ), parachute drop zones (DZ), aircraft forward operating sites, and mechanized reconnaissance missions.
Again, the US Army would call the engineer function Sappers and is already present in our Combat Engineers. Radio Recon does its thing too. Special Recon Missions are beyond my knowledge. I simply don't know what that would include.
- When properly task organized with other forces, equipment or personnel, assist in specialized engineer, radio, mobile, and other special reconnaissance missions.
This is simply how they get to work but even this is duplicated to some extent by the conventional Marine Corps. Scout Swimmers are found in every battalion. And only Scuba and Airborne ops are unique to Recon/Force Recon. But in the US Army these skill sets are found outside their Special Operations Forces.
- Infiltrate mission areas by necessary means to include: surface, subsurface and airborne operations.
Marine Snipers conduct this mission as well as regular Marine Units.
- Conduct counter-reconnaissance.
Pathfinder by a different name. Again found throughout the Army Infantry.
- Conduct Initial Terminal Guidance (ITG) for helicopters, landing craft, parachutists, air-delivery, and re-supply.
ANGLICO, Terminal Air Control Party all do this. Same skillset found throughout the DoD.
- Designate and engage selected targets with organic weapons and force fires to support battlespace shaping. This includes designation and terminal guidance of precision-guided munitions.
Done by drones and other means without risking life or limb. A regular infantry mission.
- Conduct post-strike reconnaissance to determine and report battle damage assessment on a specified target or area.
I don't need or want the drama but I would like an answer. If you have one then feel free to post a comment or even hit me up on my e-mail.
This is an issue that won't be wished away and if you think that the last 12 years of conflict are going to change minds then you're wrong. We were set on a path by Rumsfield that I don't think we're off yet. He wanted a high tech force with far fewer people in the services. That will include SOCOM and Recon unless a real answer to why we need them can be found.
WAAAAY of base Solomon, Been to any regular Army Infantry Units lately? Drones are a great asset, They can NEVER do everything 'Boots on the ground' can do...including HUMNIT. So many wrong comparasions! What you speak of may be found in Rangers or possibly 10Mtn. outside of S.O. units, If one were to follow your mindset it would seem like an argument for 'shitcanning' Force Recon altogetheir, That will not work! I like your blog & normally agree with you, I think you are 'Off page' here...Bigtime!
ReplyDeletei can take the pain so hit me hard! you said 10th mountain has it. agreed. but so does the 82nd and the 101st. i would bet the 2nd ID does too and i've lost sight of what they're doing but i would think so does the 25th ID. that leaves a few of the heavy units but they have even better capability in the recon area. so how am i way off base.
Deletemy idea isn't to shit can Force but they need a focus....all the units that are doing raids and only raids outside of the Rangers need to learn to do alternate missions. the Marine and Army divisions now have the capability of using large uav's to get that information. so if Force Recon doesn't do recon anymore then what do they do?
Force Recon...FOCUS...Alternating Missions...ALL part of the gig my friend.
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