Tuesday, July 16, 2013

SU-25 vs. A-10. Which is better? via Defense IQ.


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  1. Great I wish we were building new and improved versions that Army and Marines were flying

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  2. One point to add there is a trainer version of Su-25, which is also carrier STOVL capable!!

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    1. Would you care to provide a bit of supporting evidence for a STOVL capable Su-25?

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    2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZb_2lbWrYs

      The Su-25UTG (Uchebno-Trenirovochnyy s Gakom) is a variant of the Su-25UB designed to train pilots in takeoff and landing on a land-based simulated carrier deck, with a sloping ski-jump section and arrester wires. The first one flew in September 1988, and approximately 10 were produced.[47] About half remained in Russian service after 1991; they were used on Russia's sole aircraft carrier, the Admiral Kuznetsov. This small number of aircraft were insufficient to meet the training needs of Russia's carrier air group, so a number of Su-25UBs were converted into Su-25UTGs. These aircraft being distinguished by the alternative designation Su-25UBP (Uchebno-Boyevoy Palubny) —the adjective palubnyy meaning "deck", indicating that these aircraft have a naval function.[48] Approximately 10 of these aircraft are currently operational in the Russian Navy as part of the 279th Naval Aviation Regiment.

      Quick Google search.

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    3. I think Kamesh got carried away with the STOVL part... :-)
      STOBAR ops are interesting, one of those possibilities never pursued for the Hog.
      Rolling landings seem like the preferential operational mode for naval F-35B users anyways.

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    4. While I appreciate the results of your quick google search, that isn't the supporting evidence I was asking for. Kamesh Deepak stated a carrier STOVL capable version of the Su-25 exists. Yes, a carrier capable version exists. However, a STOVL version does not. Carrier capable does not mean Short Take Off and Vertical Landing (STOVL) capable.

      Examples of STOVL platforms are the Harrier, F-35B, Yak-38. The Su-25 does not mean the requirements for that designation.

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    5. Sorry my Bad mixed up STOBAR and STOVL :)

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    6. its no biggee. STOVL isn't STOVL anymore anyway. everything is moving toward a style of short takeoff, short landing.

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  3. Why didn't they include the 1991 war for the A-10?

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  4. Interesting the claim the Su-25 was "heavily based" on the A-9. I don't know many who really believe that there's anything other than a rather tenuous passing relation between the two (personally I don't think they look alike at all).

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  5. The Iranian Su-25's attempted to shoot down an MQ-1, but didn't succeed. Big difference than what the table implies.

    http://theaviationist.com/2012/11/08/su-25-predator/

    Also, if they're going to mention an almost air-to-air kill by the Su-25 then they should mention the two confirmed kills the A-10 racked up in 1991.

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  6. I wonder what would happen if we brought back to life the YA-9 design and update it with swept back wings of the SU-25 and the Survivability of the A-10. Would we have an improved version or an upgraded version of the A-10

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