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I avoid large gatherings of people like the plague. Maybe I'm secretly anti-social, maybe because they make me nervous...maybe because I keep reading stuff like this. Read the it all here (with videos) but the juicy parts....
On Christmas Night over 600 kids and teenagers swarmed a movie theater in Jacksonville, Florida violently attacking moviegoers, an off duty police officer, and each other in one of the largest flash mobs to date.And then this...
Somewhere around 600 crazed teens swarmed the theater attacking people and stealing everything in sight. 62 police officers were dispatched to the theater, where they had to fire pepper spray into the crowd to get them to disperse.
At the same time, another flash mob swarmed a mall in Brooklyn, New York. In this case, over 400 teens stormed a Brooklyn mall violently attacking security guards, shoppers and each other. Local reports say that while part of the flash mob was violently raiding stores around the mall, another large group of teens strategically targeted innocent shoppers as part of the now infamous knockout game. According to police, the teens in both areas used social media sites like Facebook and Twitter to plan the violent attacks and mass looting events. Even while events unfolded, teens were still taking to the internet to brag about beating up innocent people and looting stores.We talked about the appropriate firearms and the rounds carried. In my opinion if you aren't planning on facing off against multiple attackers then you're fooling yourself.
And if you're still a movie goer or mall shopper you're in denial. Hangouts for the younger set are just breeding grounds for stupidity and criminality.
This is madness, more this is pure insane!
ReplyDeleteThat would probably brake bazillion of rights and laws in US but I would take a two hundred men strong riot squads, fully armed with gas, rubber bullets and batons. Dogs, water cannons... ale those hard hitting stuff. And pacifies them, not some pepper spray but walk in and kick those sorry asses in to oblivion.
I know that most of you don't like the idea of strong Police force in the country, many of you only know the reality of "police state" from some movies or books. I was born in police state, my parents and grandparents live most of it lives in that state and they always appreciate one thing... security. My grandfather saw one time like drunk moron stab a bus driver, in just mere second two MO ( Milicja Obywatelska - Citizen's Militia ) officers appear not to stop that guy, not try to speak with him, they take batons and pound his sorry ass until he was unconscious, then they grab him, throw in to the Militia van and drive away. Yeah it was not easy to live in socialistic puppet country of USSR but you can say one thing about Militia there, they don't screw around.
This situations like those mob attack will only give politicians tools to increase militarization of Police forces, people will agree because they will be scared. And I'm not surprise, 600 young's attack in organized ways a movie theater... Mall, what next ? bank ? Police station... a school ? hospital!?
I appreciate your thoughts and I think you are right about these incidents making way for a police state.
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These "people" and their behavior did not come to be naturally. There is a powerful and well funded apparatus that makes this possible. An immoral and illegal one at that. We don't need a police state, we just need to remove that apparatus and damage it so this can't happen to our children.
That doesn't mean America can be saved or be "normal" ever again. I think those days are long over and our future is filled with pain no matter what. The 90M people that work can continue to break our backs to pay for the other 230M that don't--and we will fail because collectivism is unsustainable. Or, we can change our course (knowing we will fail) and prepare.
If a person lives in Jacksonville FL and the only thing that separates him from the barbarians is a river (with plenty of bridges), he may want to think that through.
Sol's observations about LE response and span of control is dead on in this and other posts.
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ReplyDeleteyou're banned. not being PC, just not labeling. take your comments to the Storm Front.
DeleteHere is some more mall "fun" from Mall of America: Man beaten after iPhone is stolen.
ReplyDeletehttp://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2013/12/27/police-mark-andrew-beaten-after-getting-iphone-stolen-at-moa-starbucks/
I agree with Solomon; people are INSANE. I was just traveling down a two lane road when two cars in the other lane crossed over a double yellow line to pass a parked car. Only problem was I was in the other lane when they did it! Almost forced me into a ditch to avoid a head-on. People are fucking nuts.
Oh and don't forget it probably took 30 min to get 60 cops from across a city on scene. This does show to be a deadly force situation. This also would make a good reason to make expandable batons legal for those 18 and up with no gang activity. Look up the RCB batons. If you can carry one it may be a good back up.
ReplyDeleteThe problem with these sorts of attacks is your ONLY chance of winning is if you initiate
ReplyDeleteOnce that first "kid" land that first punch, you're fucked.
Maybe, if you are a near pro heavy weight boxer you can take that first hit and be ready to defend yourself against persons two and three. Put them down hard and maybe four and five will run.
But if your not used to taking very heavy hits and keeping going, your only chance is to somehow identify an attack ahead of time, pre-empt it, and have a very good lawyer to explain why you shot someone
Even if the law is on your side, expect to be crucified by the media.
Trayvon.....
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More police arent the answer
Unless they are on site carrying out Dredd esque executions
Justice in Mega City One style ?
DeleteRioting - 2 to 10 Years
Of course if they try to resist arrest or attack the Judge, life or death.
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ReplyDeleteThere will never be enough cops and they will never get there soon enough.
ReplyDeleteImagine if they weren't just some kids out for shits and giggles. If this was a purposeful attack intended to commit damage or violence, it would scare the shit out of the authorities because they have no counter to it.
Flash mobs scare the shit out of LE because they have the potential to be the most dangerous thing because they cannot respond quick enough or with numbers.
Imagine if it were armed terrorists who were simply given a time and place to show up. No words, nothing to detect. Jihadi brings his AK, 6 mags and a molotov cocktail and at the right time, just starts shooting.
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ReplyDeleteSo with all the armed security and citizens in the US how is this even possible?
ReplyDeleteNo one tried to stop this? Amazing!
I saw what you did there..........
DeleteAt first I thought you were being anti-gun. You clever cloggs you. :)
Very few security is armed, and out of those very few has anymore training than what is needed to get them to pass the states min qualification score.How many of those security guards have even thought through actually having to shoot someone in defense of themselves or someone else? The malls around where I am at have no armed security and even if they did there are maybe 4 working at a given time. 4 to take on 400? Also think of how these kids view authority, they may fear being arrested by police or at least would try to run from an officer instead of put up a real fight, but compare that line of thinking to a security guard who they have even less respect for and they would fight all out with the security.
ReplyDeleteAnother topic that this brings up besides maybe expandable batons where you can carry them is the possible need for concealable body armor or am I just taking it to far?
I think "street culture" has realised the great unspoken truth, the the police are few in number and are only capable of a very limited response. We saw it in London a few years back.
ReplyDeleteThrow in social media and mobile phones etc. and you have a recipe for anarchy and chaos.