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Imagine this scenario.
The US Army needs to update its light transport aircraft. Its been flying the Sherpa for almost as long as the USMC has been operating the AAV...in others words they're old as dirt.
So what does the Army do? They talk to their "brother" service and the USAF agrees that the Army actually does need these aircraft, the Army promises not to step on USAF toes and Jointness is once again king.
But before the ink dries the USAF conducts combat operations on the most fierce battlefield known to man (if you're a paper pusher) and the war commences on the plains of the Pentagon.
So what happens?
The USAF gets the C-27J's that the US Army desperately needed, they promptly mothball them, then the US Coast Guard, SOCOM and Homeland Security and the Forestry Service all puts dibs on them.
The US Army Chief of Staff is saying "WHAT THE FUCK JUST HAPPENED" and before you know it the deal is struck.
The Coast Guard gets the C-27J's and gives the USAF old C-130's, the USAF will refurbish and modify the C-130's for fire fighting duty for the Forestry Service and the Army is left looking slack eyed and silly.
lol... I know that USAF never like her daddy ( being an ex Army Aviation ) but this was pure evil. But in other hand, I prefer that modern plane don't go to scrap after he leaves assembly line like they did with Spartans. Because it was a fraking ridiculous. Cost Guard will get them, that's good I think, those lads saves souls every day...
ReplyDeleteSomeone in Army must screw really bad, I don't believe that in highly bureaucratic institution like DoD or Pentagon that deal was top secret. They probably talk about it from months.
One question.
ReplyDeleteIf the USAF said that the C-27j were too expensive to operate then, what is the cost of operating the plane for the USCG?
thats the dirty secret no one that supports the F-35 wants to talk about. that one airplane is causing procurement disruptions all across the Pentagon. not only is it affecting the USAF and USMC (the two solid backers of the airplane), but its also causing the US Navy heartburn and the US Army heartache.
Deletethe F-35 is venereal disease that has no cure. its aerial AIDS.
Locked Martin is associated to C27 too ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alenia_C-27J_Spartan), and is associated with italy, which all firms practice corruptions... CF cancelling of AW 101 in India !
DeleteF 35 is a symptom ! Locked Martin is a metastatic tumor in the pentagon...
full disclosure. besides being a fan of BAE USA Ground Vehicles Division, i'm also a fan of the Lockheed Martin Ground Vehicle Dept (or whatever they call it). the guys in the vehicle, and rocket areas are busting ass and watching alot of good will and public relations evaporate because of the F-35.
Deletei feel sorry for them, but the blame, like you said belongs to the bozos in Lockheed Martin that are running the F-35 program....well them and the Pentagon that is selling its very soul for the plane.
i don't know why they can't see it but even if they get this plane across the finish line the damage done to their brand is going to be almost impossible to repair. they might have a hope once people from the age of 30 and up are all dead but the truth is its gonna be a hard ride. people talk about Boeing being in the fighter business, the truth is will Lockheed Martin be in the defense business in 50 years. they might not be allowed to do business anymore.
Remeber the US Army backed out of the C-27J program (for reasons I don't know). So that lef the USAF to perform a support mission to another service that the USAF did not want a new bird for~
ReplyDeleteI would also point out the the US Army gave up on its TSV concept and turned the JHSVs over to the Navy/MSC. I think the US Army is just plain shrinking its programs after having botched management of serveral big ticket projects.
BTW while the Spartan deal is peculiar, in the end I think all services/agencies will be happy?
The USFS is also getting "not more than" 15 C-23B+ aircraft in the transfer also. They will most likely replace the Twin Otter, and possibly the Turbo DC-3, for dropping Smoke Jumpers.
ReplyDeleteAs for the USCG getting the C-27J, they would be perfect for curtain AOR's that have long Range and adverse weather. They would be for places where you need to loiter for a long time and have the same endurance as an HH-130H. It's why I can see the USCG getting the C-27J for places such as Hawaii, Alaska, Cape Cod and Astoria. As for the HC-144, they would be for places in shorter AOR's and calmer, warmer climates.
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