Many thanks to "Clan" for sending the link...
All photos are via PlanoBrasil.
I highly recommend you follow the link, turn on Google translate and enjoy a nice overview of where the Brazilians are with this vehicle.
If you look around the world, you'll find that Brazil is one of the few countries on the planet that is putting new vehicles into service right now. The Marine Corps and the US Army would be well served to follow their example.
Sidenote 1. The bottom photo is of the Elbit 30mm RWS turret. Notice how they've cleaned it up, put all ammo feeds and optics under armor? Its much more compact and much lower in profile. I like it. Whenever the Marine Corps decides on a new armored vehicle that is one thing that I would like chewed on a bit more. Is it necessary to have manned weapon stations or does tech provide us with a better solution going the RWS route.
Sidenote 2. Does anyone know which way the Brazilians are going with their weapon mount? I'm seeing a manned 50 cal mount, a 50 cal RWS and then a 30mm RWS. They aren't going with all three are they?
All photos are via PlanoBrasil.
I highly recommend you follow the link, turn on Google translate and enjoy a nice overview of where the Brazilians are with this vehicle.
If you look around the world, you'll find that Brazil is one of the few countries on the planet that is putting new vehicles into service right now. The Marine Corps and the US Army would be well served to follow their example.
Sidenote 1. The bottom photo is of the Elbit 30mm RWS turret. Notice how they've cleaned it up, put all ammo feeds and optics under armor? Its much more compact and much lower in profile. I like it. Whenever the Marine Corps decides on a new armored vehicle that is one thing that I would like chewed on a bit more. Is it necessary to have manned weapon stations or does tech provide us with a better solution going the RWS route.
Sidenote 2. Does anyone know which way the Brazilians are going with their weapon mount? I'm seeing a manned 50 cal mount, a 50 cal RWS and then a 30mm RWS. They aren't going with all three are they?
Hello Solomon, yes, the army is going to acquire 2044 VBTPs Guaranis along the next 20 years and they will come with the 3 turrets (probably the majority with the manual, as it is cheaper) and others with Elbit Systems 30mm gun and .50 automatic REMAX.
ReplyDeleteSeveral of the latest RCWS offerings (not just from Elbit) seem to include more armor protection for the weapon system itself. A very good decision considering what we have seen in recent conflicts. I wonder what those bolts on the turret's armor are for however? Used for attaching applique armor?
ReplyDeleteThe photo shows the ELBIT turret in travelling mode, in which position it lies sideways.
ReplyDeleteYes, the bolts are to attach aditional armor.
Reg
uh no. i've watched Elbit closely and they've come up with a new 30mm RWS that is more compact. the older model folds down but even in the "lowered" position it still has visible feed chutes.
DeleteSorry, but to close the matter I would like to record the fact that the photo shows the ELBIT UT-30 turret lying sideways, in the position to fit inside aircraft cargo bays.
ReplyDeleteSeveral times this kind of photo was shown in Brazilian defense internet sites to the aplause of people who considered the UT-30 turret too high.
They were enthused - the Brazilian Army had droped the horrible UT-30 turret and adopted a new one!!!
Again and again, they were disapointed whem it was explained that thar was the UT-30 in the lowered, non firing position.
I saw that happen, not only once, but several times.
I am writing this for the record.
Reg
ok. then i'm MUCH less impressed with the Brazilian planning. they're using an old turret that has been abandoned by everyone with any kind of sense. everyone else is making compact 30mm RWS that won't get hung up in foliage or will be damaged by even stray rifle fire.
DeleteI've read about another proposal: the TORC-30 by Ares. They intend to prepare the tower until 2015. Maybe, UT-30 is just a stop-gap option.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRyj149ZWpo se Actual shooting video
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