Thursday, April 03, 2014

Conflict over a derelict ship turned outpost????

via Gobalnation. Inquirer...
MANILA, Philippines—China was warned Thursday against trying to tow away the BRP Sierra Madre from Ayungin Shoal, as this could be considered an attack against the Philippines and prompt the United States to defend the country in keeping with their Mutual Defense Treaty.
And should this happen, international law expert and University of the Philippines law professor Harry Roque said, the result could be a war in Asia.
“The result: the West Philippine Sea [dispute], unless China backs off, may trigger the biggest armed conflict in the region since the Vietnam and Indochina conflict,” Roque said in a statement.
Roque noted that the Sierra Madre has always been described as a “derelict,” but the government recently described it as a “commissioned naval vessel.”
A statement released by the Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA) on March 14 said, “The BRP Sierra Madre, a commissioned Philippine naval vessel, was placed in Ayungin Shoal in 1999 to serve as a permanent Philippine government installation in response to China’s illegal occupation of Mischief Reef (Panganiban Reef) in 1995.”
The Philippines says Ayungin Shoal is part of its continental shelf, over which it has “sovereign rights and jurisdiction” and by pointing that the Sierra Madre is a commissioned ship, the government “really wants to trigger the applicability of the Mutual Defense Treaty,” Roque said.
That is why China should “rethink” any plans to tow away the Sierra Madre, he said.
“Derelict, as it may be, it is subject to full sovereign immunity and any attempt to tow it away from Ayungin may finally trigger the applicability of the US-Philippine Mutual Defense Treaty,” he said.
Attack on Sierra Madre
And while the United States has said that the treaty may not be triggered by fighting in the West Philippine Sea because it does not recognize Philippine title to the area, this is not in the case when it involves a commissioned naval vessel, Roque said.
“An attack against a Philippine commissioned naval vessel may be sufficient for the purpose,” he said.
Asked whether he believed China had plans to tow away the Sierra Madre, Roque said China could have such plans, as it was now in the next phase of its 50-year maritime policy that includes “denying others possession of coastal waters” in the South China Sea.
Beijing is “determined to get as much as it could” in the South China Sea, he said.
Two things disturb me about this story.

First they don't tell us where they're getting the idea that China is about to tow away the ship.  Perhaps there are Chinese salvage vessels in the area and they've intercepted communications discussing it, but as it stands this sounds like a controversy they're pulling out of there ass.

Second, its a bit unsettling to see how quickly they are to toss the US into the middle of a messy international dispute.  An attack on the Philippines proper is one thing, but a tiny outpost in disputed waters?  Really? Seriously?

The Pentagon and State Dept needs to have quite a few adult conversations with allies in the region.  

9 comments :

  1. There aren't any "adults" in the State Department. All losers.

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    1. agreed but we need someone to tighten up these mutual aid treaties. i don't want to get dragged into someone else's war because their leadership acted stupidly. we have enough trouble with Neo-Cons and Progressive defend humanity idiots in our own country.

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    2. I sincerely hope that the US starts making/developing its allies into more capable forces so that they become a "Provider" of security rather than a Consumer. Manilla has been bitchin about China for a long time yet their own military actions have been feeble. I would like to point out how Japan, South Korea and even Taiwan try to do their very best to defend themselves First...and then ask for US Aid.

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    3. and on a lighter note....I bet the US Govt. is preparing a large shipment of MRE foodstuffs to aid in the Defence of Phillipines

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  2. Maybe the pinoys can invite Japan to fight for them under the "collective self-defense" agreement? RSVP will do the trick.

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  3. I don't think that boat's going anywhere :

    http://www.nytimes.com/newsgraphics/2013/10/27/south-china-sea/

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  4. I wouldn't loose any sleep over the prospect of war in the Pacific (anytime soon), Sol.

    Russia, Syria, Iran and North Korea has proven that Obama is NATO (No Action, Talk Only).

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  5. An attempted tow on this ship/derelict or any ship is an act of war says the United States?
    What about the,
    USS Liberty
    USS Pueblo
    USS Stark
    USS Cole
    USS Greer
    USS Rueben James
    USS Kerney
    USS Panay
    USS Water Witch
    Seems they pick and choose which ship attacks to go to war about.
    I sincerely doubt Obama has the guts to fight China over a derelict Filipino ship stuck on a reef.
    UNLESS, White racist Catholic Christian anti-gay republican veterans from the US attack it that is.

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