Wrap your head around this....
Marines and Soldiers are taught to run toward the "sounds of chaos" at every instance....except on their own military installation during an active shooter scenario.
Then we expect them to shelter in place.
Do that overseas and you're lucky if your unit members don't pound you to an inch of your life and command doesn't charge you with dereliction of duty/cowardice under fire.
How do we solve the problem of active shooters on base?
I don't know. What I do know is that what we're doing now doesn't help. Maybe a rotating, small (4 man team?) quick reaction force trained and equipped to deal with the issue? Again I don't know but the shelter in place is something for civilian and school kids. Not warriors trained and skilled in combat.
Sidenote: Have you noticed that these shootings have an unusually high body count? Since Clinton's 1992 ban affecting personal weapons on military installations and with ever increasing restrictions coming from the Pentagon, its obvious that military installations are in essence "gun free zones". The nightmare scenario has always been that terrorist would attack a Mall. Unless things change we might wake up to a rampage on a military post by a group of terrorist that ends up gunning down a battalion of service members following the "shelter in place" edict.
Haven't done much research but wasn't Clinton in office starting in 1993. So wouldn't that be GB1.
ReplyDeleteI'm a Civil Engineer in the AF and we practice locking the door and turning off the lights. We joke about how they would shoot out the lock if they wanted.
ReplyDeleteits no joke. even a moderately trained person is capable of getting through locked doors. i mean seriously! most internal doors are not rated to with stand even moderate force applied to them
DeleteHere is a good video on whats being taught.
ReplyDeletehttp://youtu.be/5VcSwejU2D0
Now the wife is a school teacher and I have given and shown her how to use tools to get her and her students out of the school and into the neighborhood to hide away from the shooting, not in the same damn building where people are getting shot.
good deal. i hear that the new law enforcement thing is to respond immediately but this sheltering in place is just disturbing to me.
DeleteI'd say more than 50% are not trained well enough to take on an active shooter. The only good part is that most active shooters give up or kill themselves once resistance begins. The sad part is in about every state there are free classes to get training, but to few officers know about it or are willing to put in the training.
DeleteFort Hood is a large base I know but where are the MPs? Do they have regular grunts on patrol at certain areas? Seriously why the hell did they even introduce such a ban in the first place? Was there a shooting on a base that caused them to implement it in the first place or just stupidity?
ReplyDeleteI'm quite astonished that you don't have QRF in US Base ! Every base in France has one... Always a group fully armed, which can immediatly react, plus one within 15 minutes.
ReplyDeleteHey Sol.
ReplyDeleteDon't know if this played out for this incident, but a good active shooter article.
http://www.policeone.com/active-shooter/articles/7044407-15-years-after-Columbine-How-the-media-turned-me-into-a-gun-control-advocate/