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Why?
Because in both cases these men, wrong as they might be, were engaged in private conversations. One of those conversations was recorded and released to the public, the other was reported to public officials after being overheard at a restaurant.
I don't mean to be obscene but isn't that what the Gestapo and the KGB did?
They took informants information and if it did not meet the standards of the state then those persons being accused were summarily punished?!
So that means that if I'm in public, I have to make sure that whatever is said between myself and whoever meets public standards? The idea that they're having a conversation and its none of my business no longer applies?
We are setting ourselves up for something dangerous. No. I don't agree with those guys statements. But to take a team? To be forced to resign? It all seems a bit extreme in my opinion.
Ask yourself this.
Have you been laying in bed with your wife or girlfriend and said something that could be career impacting if it got out? Have you been with buddies and said something that would have you publicly ostracized if they told the news media?
Welcome to America 2014. We have already set the groundwork for a police state and no one noticed.
Board of Selectmen Chair Linda Murray said Robert Copeland, 82, resigned Sunday night from the post to which he was re-elected in March, putting to rest a controversy that drew national attention and sparked impassioned debate in this resort town of 6,300 on the shore of Lake Winnipesaukee.This incident and the case with the LA Clippers owner should worry all of us but I don't sense any outrage.
"The town is pleased," Murray said Monday. "This gives us the opportunity to move on. We are a very accepting community that really takes care of each other."
Copeland has not returned several calls seeking comment.
At a meeting last week, Copeland defiantly sat with his arms folded as more than 100 residents pushed for his ouster and tore into his comments, saying he didn't speak the town or its people.
Copeland admitted using the slur, preceded by an obscenity, while he was at a restaurant in March. A resident, Jane O'Toole, overheard him and complained to town officials when she learned that Copeland was a police commissioner.
"I believe I did use the 'N' word in reference to the current occupant of the Whitehouse," Copeland said in the April email sent to the two other commissioners and forwarded to O'Toole. "For this, I do not apologize - he meets and exceeds my criteria for such."
Why?
Because in both cases these men, wrong as they might be, were engaged in private conversations. One of those conversations was recorded and released to the public, the other was reported to public officials after being overheard at a restaurant.
I don't mean to be obscene but isn't that what the Gestapo and the KGB did?
They took informants information and if it did not meet the standards of the state then those persons being accused were summarily punished?!
So that means that if I'm in public, I have to make sure that whatever is said between myself and whoever meets public standards? The idea that they're having a conversation and its none of my business no longer applies?
We are setting ourselves up for something dangerous. No. I don't agree with those guys statements. But to take a team? To be forced to resign? It all seems a bit extreme in my opinion.
Ask yourself this.
Have you been laying in bed with your wife or girlfriend and said something that could be career impacting if it got out? Have you been with buddies and said something that would have you publicly ostracized if they told the news media?
Welcome to America 2014. We have already set the groundwork for a police state and no one noticed.
I find it really interesting how so many people were outraged at NSA spying but they have no problem with this?!? These were private conversations, the one with LA Clippers owner was taped illegally! This wasn't official business, they weren't talking to employees or were conducting business, they were at a restaurant and at home!
ReplyDeleteI agree, Sol, can anyone say they didn't have conversations that were out of bounds if revealed? What about gossip? A bad joke? I don't like it either.....
A culturally Marxist police state. There is a war on whites.
ReplyDeleteummmm.........i guess i dont see the problems as much as you do. First while the clippers guy should not have been recorded it was a corporation he is in a business relationship with that punished him, not the government. also the town hall meeting was an act of an elected body after the people were upset at what was said in their name and resigned from that elected position. This is not government over reach as the FBI is not arresting people, this is business and the people making their voices heard. society is changing, and people who use to be in the majority are now a minority and the majority now can exercise its influence since thats how democracies run.
ReplyDeletei'm not defending the statements, just questioning the punishment. and lets be clear. these guys are being punished.
Deleteremember this.
you're setting up a world where 2 seconds of outrageous behavior, whether in private and the other person "tells" or in public where someone has a recorder going on their phone can wreck your life.
one oops minute can destroy you.
is that the kind of world you want?
It's like the Miranda Law whereby "Anything can, and will be, used against you. Period".
Deletenot really - only anti PC is used against whites. Contrast what has happened to these guys with the new mayor of Newark- he is an explicit black nationalist... need we even mention obama's black racist pastor?
DeleteYou're exactly right George. This PC talk shit ONLY applies to white males.
DeleteThe guy reminds me of my old man. Perhaps we're setting the ground work where being an asshole isn't as acceptable anymore
ReplyDeleteUnrelated but check this out Sol
ReplyDeletehttp://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/682973-chinese-military-said-to-be-massing-near-the-vietnam-border/?photo=5
Im amazed at the lack of media coverage on the whole situation
Schools want police to write tickets for kids bullying each other, with words not by physical violence.
ReplyDeleteIn our mandated "sensitivity class" we were told what we say inside that class there would be no judgment. What do you know they started the class requesting derogatory names for certain special interest groups. It didn't take 2 classes before people were getting investigated an disciplined for doing what they were asked to do.
I know in my career if I said anything like what was said I would be out of as job and could not find work in my career.
Oh lad's that's nothing in Gestapo or KGB style. Those whole media shit storm about one dude saying something bad against other dude is not in bot former and actual organisation. Mainly because they rather act in shadows not in medias. If you say something interesting they would show at your doors and you disappear, no cameras, no newspapers... just gone. Don't compare them to modern agents, different technology, different problems, different ways... to many cell phones and cameras in private hands.
ReplyDeleteBy the way, don't get me wrong but Americans have that really big "Sins of the Fathers" complex. Yeah, slavery and stuff but you are just too much touchy about those people. They kick "white" boy ass or insult him, yeah it's ok because you know... slavery. "White" dude kick some "black" ass or insult him, oh it's an mutherfucking worldwide scandal!
I just don't get it. What's wrong with you people, double standards to the bone.
double standard in America? ok. but in my opinion prejudice exists in all societies, in all peoples and in all countries.
Deletetake Europe for example. what are you guys dealing with? an influx of Muslims. many are gathering together because they see a threat from them. take Mexico for example. they insist on immigrant rights in the US but are guilty of some of the biggest civil rights abuses against S. Americans crossing their country to get to America. take any number of African countries and look at the tribal animosities that exist.
its a people thing. that's why i have a libertarian viewpoint on it. its ok to hate, not to want to associate etc. just don't cause harm to another person and you're free to say or do what you want.
but thought and speech regulation is going to come back and bite us all in the ass. this is how insurgencies start. with a whisper because people don't feel like they can voice an opinion and then suddenly you have groups formed, alliances started and a movement begins.
unless we get some common sense going then we're gonna get that dreaded civil unrest i've been predicting.
Yeah you right, prejudice are everywhere.
DeleteI'm afraid about those regulations can take only one side. C'mon Sol if you will call a black dude a nigger there will be a shit storm and if he call you a... frak Sol I presume you are Caucasian if not this is going to be a faux pas... white boy or white trash it all fraking dandy and ok.
Then yeah, it will be a problem. When one side will get a law protection and other will get a shit. People will go to the streets and as you said civil unrest in action.
It's called the Liberal socialist Democrats who are trying to destroy America and make it look like the Scandinavian countries.
ReplyDeleteThere are a few great collections of wild shit that Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh has said.
ReplyDeleteBut they can't fire him!