via The Guardian.
This is a telling development. The Socialist (Democrat party in US lingo) were thoroughly trounced in this election. The Center Right party (Republicans in US lingo) were also stomped.
I don't know how to characterize this except to say that the same issues that we've seen before are coming through for all to witness with these results...
You're seeing people frustrated by a lackluster economy.
People are pissed by what they see as outrageous regulation and a government that isn't responding to the needs of the people.
The issue is that hardcore right or left wing governments have historically been a prelude to conflict....either outright or economically.
THIS DEVELOPMENT DESERVES YOUR ATTENTION!
Sidenote: Both of our political parties, the UN and the World Trade Organization...along with many of our allies...are desperately trying to prop up globalization. This is further evidence that the scheme is breaking down.
"The people have spoken. Our people demands one type of politics: they want French politics by the French, for the French, with the French. They don't want to be led any more from outside, to submit to laws," a clearly jubilant Le Pen told supporters.&
"The sovereign people have proclaimed loud and clear ... that they want to take back their destiny into their own hands.
"We must build another Europe, a Europe of free and sovereign nations and freely decided cooperation. Tonight is a massive rejection of theEuropean Union.
"If Germany has become the economic heart of Europe, through the incompetence and weakness of our leaders, then France has been and will be the political heart of Europe. What is happening in France signals what will happen in all European countries; the return of the nation.
"To all those French who voted for us, I say that the battle for the greatness of France should unite us in the rediscovered love of our country."
Le Pen's father and party found Jean-Marie Le Pen called on the dissolution of the Assemblée Nationale and for the prime minister Manuel Valls to resign.
Valls described the result as a "shock" and a "political earthquake".
A meeting called by UMP head Jean-François Copé was reportedly tense, according to a source.
The FN has pledged to close France's borders to "stop the free movement of the Roma" and (foreign) delinquents as well as "cheap foreign labour", to ditch the euro and return to the franc, to end free trade agreements with America, and "to defend, in all circumstances, our values, our identity, our traditions and our way of life".Read the entire article.
This is a telling development. The Socialist (Democrat party in US lingo) were thoroughly trounced in this election. The Center Right party (Republicans in US lingo) were also stomped.
I don't know how to characterize this except to say that the same issues that we've seen before are coming through for all to witness with these results...
You're seeing people frustrated by a lackluster economy.
People are pissed by what they see as outrageous regulation and a government that isn't responding to the needs of the people.
The issue is that hardcore right or left wing governments have historically been a prelude to conflict....either outright or economically.
THIS DEVELOPMENT DESERVES YOUR ATTENTION!
Sidenote: Both of our political parties, the UN and the World Trade Organization...along with many of our allies...are desperately trying to prop up globalization. This is further evidence that the scheme is breaking down.
The EU and its parliament were declining anyhow, as described in this article.
ReplyDelete"the massive election comes at a time when the disconnect between the EU and the people it governs has arguably never been greater. A Pew Research poll this month found that majorities in seven major European countries think their voice doesn't count in the EU, including 81 percent of Italians and 80 percent of Greeks. The European Union itself acknowledges the popular perception that EU bodies "suffer from a lack of democracy and seem inaccessible to the ordinary citizen because their method of operating is so complex." It's what the institution and many others call a "democratic deficit."
It will be an interesting time for the EU and the Euro. Currently the EU leads the world in economic power, but it's sinking.
"Our people demands one type of politics: they want French politics by the French, for the French, with the French. They don't want to be led any more from outside, to submit to laws."
ReplyDeleteThat's important. World politics isn't so much right v. left any longer, in my view, it's -- are you with the US as a world hegemon (and that includes EU/NATO) or are you for a community of nations.
If you're with the US than you must accept US terms, and that affects relations with US enemies, including Russia and China but also others. If you don't want "to be led any more from outside" then you want more autonomy to act in your own best interest, but you also must accept any penalties for doing so, and they can be harsh.
how can you say that when the EU was formed as a direct counter to US power. i see this as more a sign of flagging economic growth that both the EU, US, China and the rest of the industrialized world failed to address after the collapse in 2008.
DeleteI agree with you ... nothing to do with US ... was the cheap Chinese industrial output that killed industry/jobs in europe.
DeleteWhile Europe was created as against economic power against the USA, almost all of its institutions and dirigants are under U.S. influence.
DeleteAll those concerned with the economic aspects are related almost a Goldman Sachs (which gave, once discovered, birth to the movement of "outraged").
All those involved in defense are led by U.S. promises (Belgian Defence Minister will make buying F35, although that reduce their budget for a NATO post)
We just endanger our economic interest to risk becoming entirely dependent on U.S. gas in a rough maneuver of U.S. diplomacy.
Only firmness Putin prevented us ...
That is what do Europeans think of europe ...
I would add that the french political landscape is offset from the U.S. landscape.
In fact, the FN is closer to the Republican Party and our right is closer to the Democrats
Well, the annual automotive bonfires in Paris by "angry youths" haven't been doing the muslims any favors in the French popularity contests.
ReplyDeleteNow the Germans can breathe a sigh of relief that this generations pograms won't be associated with them as the leading actor.
from my understanding the Germans are facing the exact same issues. the hard right is growing in popularity inside there, if i'm reading reports right. quite honestly l expect that the movement is probably bigger in Germany than the authorities want to admit because they're so quick to outlaw them.
DeleteTomorrow, a time to remember those we have known who have passed.
ReplyDeleteThose gentle heroes -- save them a place inside of you. -- a poem:
If you are able, save them a place inside of you
and save one backward glance when you are leaving
for the places they can no longer go.
Be not ashamed to say you loved them,
though you may or may not have always.
Take what they have left and what they have taught you
with their dying and keep it with your own.
And in that time when men decide and feel safe
to call the war insane, take one moment to embrace
those gentle heroes you left behind.
This poem was written by Major Michael Davis O'Donnell, on January 1, 1970 in Dak To, Vietnam. Major O'Donnell was a helicopter commander with the 170th Aviation Company, 17th Aviation Group, 52nd Aviation Battalion, 1st Aviation Brigade. He and his crew were shot down two months later, on 24 March, 1970, while performing an extraction operation. Major O'Donnell's remains were never found.
Hahaha, hey blame the gypsies and the east-europeans for everything, that`s the trend now in Europe, because they know there won`t be a agressive response.
ReplyDeleteTHIS, while London, Paris and other big European cities in a few years will be the new Middle East/Africa (from many point of views)...
It shows the "superiority" of those who voted some brain dead "leaders" who sucked from the wrong parent when they were young and between a line and a shot realised they are "patriots"
I wonder where was the SS from those countries when parties with support both economically and "moral" from rusia made their way up into top EU/NATO countries...
i don't understand what you're saying. be clear please.
DeleteHe's saying these dumbasses are blaming defenseless Gypsies/Jews
Deletejust as we watch young muslims burn thousands of cars for fun and control vast "Zones sans Lois"(lawless-sharia law zones)...LePen Père was seen doing the nazi-(quenelle) stiff arm salute last month with rabid neo-nazis...whole parts of Paris are blocked for Muslim prayers while a few thousand Gypsies are deported back to Romania's prison camps...you get the idea...them Jews are better leave, just like in 1939...
See...
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This neo-nazi rallying gesture have been spread by rabid anti-semite Dieudonné M'Bala M'Bala, a known paid agent of the Iranian Mullah...his accomplice, the marxist Alain Soral bragged of getting an "envelope" of five million dollars for their hate campaign from the Iranian Government.
Well, it`s pretty simple, in western Europe where is the economical and military center of the EU "suddenly" the anti-EU/NATO propaganda intensified in the last months, who`s interests are these?
ReplyDeleteWhile in eastern Europe if you`re anti-EU/NATO, your political career is over, as a preventive measure.
Divide et impera.
Honestly,
Deletein France and in the Netherlands people are getting sick of muslims.... in Toulouse a girl with her friends in a gals night out were kicked in the street because they were supposed to be at home and not like sluts going out in the night. ... small things like this are coming at higher pace and in more countries in europe. ... fight in a school in spain because some muslim parents do not want the school to serve pork ... etc etc .... the pile of muslim crap is increasing ...specially in the last decade or so...
All this Bitching from Extremest or Alternative Route Politicians is normal. It always happens when economies go from Prosperity to decline and then back again to growth. The whole Periodic Growth/Depression cycle. Happens in every country by default on a regual time schedule (which coincides with economic hard times). Just the faces change.....the bitching.....oops..the agenda always remains the same.
ReplyDeleteThough one must remain vary that Leaders like Adolf Hitler dont rise out of such "Percieved" Desperate times. True..back in the day Germany was truely economically fucked and that was evident in the leader they democratically elected (Hitler).......but france nowadays is still not the economic graveyard that germany was. Ditto for Greece and Italy. They are still in much better shape than Germany of old.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, if economic helplessness and destruction is the symptom for people to elect radical leaders.....Japan after WW2 destruction is one hell of an exception. An exception that finds no equal. I mean really....search all history books to find one Country or Kingdom that actually came out with decent/caring leadership after such a calamity.
ReplyDeleteWe tried to do it with Gandhi, but he got assasinated waaay to soon for his programs to have any decent effect.
DeleteJapan was led by an absolute Satrap, Mac Arthur, that effected deeper reforms on an extremely primitive society than Mao ever did, while protecting the worst war criminals in history(Hiro-Hito, Dr Shiro Ishii)...As for the naked fakir, a gross pedophile sleeping every night with dozens of pre teens who also murdered his wife, thank God the hero Nathuran Godse killed him before he could totally destroy India
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Thank God again Indians have seen the light and kicked out the Gandhi bums that have kept india in a Soviet style misery since the phony fakir croaked...hundred of millions have starved to death while these creeps enriched themselves!
Wabano, while i am not that much aware of Individual Japanese war criminals, I would ask you to show some bloody respect for a guy who had the balls to do something no one else in this world has done before and i dont think anyone else will in that huge biblical scale. As for his sexual perversions, very little is actually documented let alone proven. I am sure he had his quirks and kinks but he did not murder his wife nor did he cause deaths of others around him. Nathuram Godse, his assasin was more of a retard madman than a stone cold killer. Mind you, Gandhi never himself prophesized soviet style economy. He went in for something even more RADICAL. His economic policy is a matter of another debate though.
DeleteAlso, Wabano, when you are in a country which is being torn apart with religious hatred of the very worst kind, with typical British Partition Bullshit making things even worse, you will truly understand the value of a man.....of a Single Man, untainted and unbiased by all the Bullshit around him. He made no money, got swayed by no Lobby Panel, did not hold a stake in any business or govt. scheme. Had no stake invested in any religion. Throughout all that partition crap, the one person who stood like a rock, despite his failing health through all the hunger fasting was Gandhi. Fuck if he cared about any Opinion Polls or Presidential Debates or Public Image or even his own Life.
DeleteAnd completly unrelated to this.............India's new Prime Minister has decided to keep the Defence Ministry Portfolio with himself. Unprecedented move as Defence isnt considered politicall rewarding unless there is an invasion going either way. He has most probably retained Retired General VK Singh, ex-Chief of Army Staff as his Junior Minister in that department. General VK Singh incidently is a US Army Ranger School Pass Out and while serving in the Indian Army still used to put his Ranger Tab in uniform. Veteran of the 1971 Bangladesh Liberation War. Maannn....this is very exciting news in this part of the world
ReplyDeleteLooks like he has also been to the United States Army War College in Carlisle, Pennsylvania. So now India is outsourcing yes...outsourcing from USA. Lol.
DeleteIn britain the United Kingdom Independence Party (UKIP) wont the euro elections. These people aren't even the far far right, the british national party and britain first are much more to the right. UKIP is good because the want to more or less triple the navy.
ReplyDeleteTriple the Navy ?....thats a whole lot of Astutes running around then.
Deletesurface fleet i should say. Currently the Royal Navy has 17 major surface combatants (plus 1 helicopter carrier and 2 landing ships) UKIP in their 2010 manifesto said they wanted 70 major surface ships.
DeleteThe result of this election :
ReplyDelete- FN : extreme right-wing : 25%
- UMP : right : 20%
- PS : socialist : 14%
It is not exactly turning hard right.
The European Parliament majority doesn't change : right
The European Politics are not going to change because the extrem right wing doesn't have the majority (even with allies). They have just gain a bigger right to talk.
The French Politics are not going to change because this election has literally no effect on the french parliament. There are NOT going to have new election in France. The government stay the same.
The next election which can have a real effect is the senate election in September because the center right party can regain the majority in this chamber.
This election is a no event which media like to be a real event.
That's it.
ReplyDeleteThe French just used this vote to show their actual socialist President François Hollande how dissatisfied they are.
GREAT NEWS:
ReplyDeleteThe FN has pledged to close France's borders to "stop the free movement of the Roma" and (foreign) delinquents as well as "cheap foreign labour", to ditch the euro and return to the franc, to end free trade agreements with America, and "to defend, in all circumstances, our values, our identity, our traditions and our way of life".
if only we can facilitate the equivalent in the FUSA. maybe we can get rid of the "F"....
They want to destroy the Union, without one single organisation Europe will again be one fucking hell hole where everyone what to kill everyone.
ReplyDeleteNationalists, ultras and some fraking lunatics... those are the people who were chosen to EU parliament. Even in Poland some fraking bat shot crazy dude win 4 seats... dude who say that he would take away every voting rights from citizens was ELECTED BY THEM to represent them!
THIS IS FRAKING MADNESS!!!
In a parliamentary system the "fringes" gain prominence through forming coalitions with other minority seat holders. In America you see this with the TEA Party candidates, they've never held a majority but have been hitting above their weight class because the Republicans need their votes to get other legislation passed. So we'll see how effective the FN politicians are by how the voting blocs turn out.
ReplyDelete"Hard right" to the euro-socialists is anyone that disagrees with their collectivist ideals, unelected EU representatives and pandering to religious extremism (guess which religion).
ReplyDelete"Religious extremists" i,e. muslims in Zeropa are like the pot smokers and the beaner brazeros in the US, too retarded to vote...not to worry.
DeleteDon't discount the role that globalist immigration policies (resistance to assimilation) have played there as well. I know that is a difficult conversation to have but the promises made by bureaucrats have been broken. Europe hasn't been enriched through immigration as predicted and parts of once great nations (UK, France, Germany) now resemble third world nations where even armed police fear to tread.
ReplyDeleteLast time I was in Italy there was widespread anti-immigrant sentiment, graffiti, and even violence against immigrant (mainly northern African). I was shocked at how overt these sentiments were compared to the US where a person is branded a racist and shamed for the same message.
Sometimes pro-gun Americans point incorrectly to our 1997 handgun as the reason why our violent crime has risen since. But we have never used handguns as Americans do for defence. What caused the rise in violence, especially on the streets, was from 1997 the then new Labour government just opened the door to anybody. If you read of a stabbing or a gang rape in the papers if there are photos of the perpetrators they won't be white and they won't have English names. If they are white they will be Eastern European; they are fond of their blades Sad but true, Supposedly crime is falling here. But what is really falling is reported crime; they can only measure what is reported! Low level street crime in cities is at such levels now it is seen for some as an expected risk. Police won't tackle taxi drivers for infringements if the drivers are Muslim. They know the racist card will be played. They know the "don't speak English" card will be played. They know that in all likelihood the details they are taking down will be false. And they know it will waste a shift on paper work. I think it will be Southern Europe (France, Italy, and Spain) that blow first; then I think the rest of Europe will follow The bizarrest situation of all is to be found in Scandinavia which was once a bastion of women's rights; the best and safest place on the planet to be a woman. Now they are leading rape states in the West. And yet due to political correctness there can be no mention why there has been a major change in society. When a country sacrifices future mothers of its people for the rights of others then there is no hope.
DeleteI hear you on guns, but from my perspective (another pro-gun American), civilian disarmament removed the ultimate check-and-balance against threats to your communities. European governments are complicit in the crime; holding down indigenous Europeans while criminals have their way.
DeleteI talk a lot of s4!t about Europeans but I forget to also mention/think about those who are trapped in a disaster that is in no way of their own making. We are starting to get a taste of that here in the US with the Liberal/Obama "radical transformation."
Every man deserves to be safe and have a safe environment in which to raise his family. We used to regard these as basic human rights (natural rights). And the only rights we have are the rights we can defend (with guns).
I've read about the ethnic-based rape in Sweden. The laws impose stricter penalties speaking out about it than for the actual rapists!
I hope you folks can figure it out and I hope the good guys wins. The bad people seem to have their finger on academia, government, entertainment, and the media worldwide.
I don't things will change. If you look at history it happens of chunks of about 500 years. We in the West are coming to the end of our 500 years. There will be a period of chaos and somebody else will take our place; probably the Chinese and Indians.
DeleteWe live in peculiar times. Our forebears worried about the tyranny of the majority, yet we seem to be living in age where we, the majority of minority. It seems there is a hierarchy where rights of one group trump the rights of others. We live in an age where nature is trumped by the artificial. What separates man from the beasts is the ability to control our nature. But this is only up to a point. It will end where somebody points it is all a a farce and then the rebalancing will be unpleasant.
Steve ... touche .... we open the doors for immigrants that do not seek a new oportunity ... they just want a job and to import their bad costumes from their thrid world countries ... and even when some of those costumes want to distroy the same society that received them, the far left says that is our foullt because we don't received them well, don't give them the same cahnces etc etc . The left killed europe by a "soft" social change, that may be one they the equivalent of the muslims (Albanians) in Serbian ancester lands ... we know what happen next.
DeleteSteve,
DeleteI hope you are wrong but I fear you are right. Should Western civilization go dormant, all would suffer.
Of course, the Liberal multi-culturalists would never take accountability for that.
Europe's far right wing vote is actually Europe's people mostly not going to vote and thus giving every nutter more importance than he should at the ballot. For France, FN's 25% of expressed votes is actually 10% of voters, a number which has not changed in the last 30 to 40 years, but inflated because some 60% of voters did not go to the voting station. The main issue is that people do not think that the system can change, so they either try to send a "signal" by voting for extreme partys (left or right by the way : the communists and associated have also done a comeback in some EU countries, thanks to the ill measured "austerity" measures they've put in place) or by not caring any longer.
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