The thing that boils my blood the most is that they're not even trying to fake it anymore. The Chinese are doing there very best to copy the very structure of the USMC. In some areas they already match our capabilities. In others they still trail...but the facts are the facts. They are attempting to achieve parity. This is a challenge that cannot be ignored.
one thing im constantly puzzled.. why everyone wear the so called fritz pattern helmet ? in a real war wont this cause massive misidentification and what not ? can every nation create their helmet in different shape so it reduce chance of blue on blue ?
ReplyDeleteback to topic, the chinese marines looked exactly almost like but a bit unlike the USMC...
Asking the Chinese to design something Original.....even if it is Helmets is comedy. Not unless Apple asks them to make it for them after providing the designs will they make it.
DeleteI've never understood the logic of a blue cammo.
DeleteApparantly its so that you cant see them comming out from the water. You can see their landing craft and ships and hovercrafts...............but damn you if you can see their infantry.
DeleteWhy does it pisses you off Sol? It is simple military logic that in order to be the best, you need to learn from the best. If anything, its a compliment to USMC. You can't really expect the US to sit a top of the food chain unchallenged, did you?
ReplyDeletei wasn't clear. what i should have said is that the globalization scheme that has seen the West develop China into the manufacturer of the world has led to them easily copying everything we design...to include weapons. additionally if anything we're seeing China piece the best features of western ships into their own. the first pic for example. the Chinese clearly copied the LPD-17 but also gave it Absalon type features like the side loading doors for heavy armor at dock...or for ship to ship transfer...something the USMC should have been all over.
Deleteno one wants to admit it but the rise of China as a military power coincides directly with the globalization agenda that was started in the 1990's. if not for that CHina would still be the backwards 3rd century country it deserves to be.
Definitely true on the rise of Chinese military power via globalization. We (the west) thought we could use "coolies" to make our stuff. They learned from us and and are now making their own equipment. Even worse, we did it with a communist country which does not want to play by the rules (i.e. patents, trademarks, intellectual property, etc).
DeleteWhat is particularly concerning to me is the pace in which China's missile technology is evolving.
ReplyDeleteIts amazing. They already have inventories of amphibious marine assault vehicles and tanks, while we are still messing around with transforming the marine corps into an air assault brigade and deploying ancient amtracks. They seem quite focused on what they want.
Thats because when the Soviet Union fell, the Chinese were fortunate to experience the same thing as the allies did after WW2.......a flood of experienced scientists, workmen, supervisors, managers and other assorted experts who the chinese hired. True, the very best of the Soviet Union may have gone to the West but their B-Team seems to have put the chinese on Ass kicking mode. Stuff the the domestic chiniese industry would have found impossible to accomplish was not getting aided by these expats.
DeleteIf only India wasnt bankrupt when the Soviet Union disintegrated, those experts would have been very welcome here.
DeleteTheir focus is Taiwan. They're not planning for ops 'somewhere'. They have a specific target, and are working on forces specifically tailored to meet this goal.
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ReplyDeleteOne of the reasons for Chinese military backwardness prior to the 1980s was the insistence by Maoist doctrine on the primacy of infantry and nuclear missile forces over air and naval power. This was because it was easier to exert central control over armies rather than sailors and flyers who might be inclined toward independent action and disloyalty. In the 1979 Sino-Vietnamese conflict, Chinese air power played little or no role in the fighting.
ReplyDeleteThat old doctrine seems to be a thing of the past for the most part, but time will tell.
Globalization isn't a plot, its not really even a thing. Beyond the absence of artificial barriers to movement.
ReplyDeleteThe west didn't dictate to China that it would be a mfg hub, China broke a ruinously high currency peg, not the first, won't be the last.
Its also a lot less effective than it appears.
I've said it a hundred times but it bears repeating. Although iPods, phones and pads I suppose now are, 'made in China', but the reality is China buys an iPad kit for $100, assembles it, and sells it to a regional apple distributer for $106. Up from $103 a few years back, but hardly big money.
Especially when you consider the retailer and Apple carve out $100 and $80 of the final sale price.
China isn't doing much that Japan didn't do, but you could redo RoboCop three, bankrupt Chicago, Asian power on the rise buying everything in sight, ect.
But where is the next step?
They can't start charging $12 for the labour to assemble an iPad, Indonesia will do it for $9.
The next step is manufacturing componants, some of that is easy, plastic casing ect. But the microchips are fantastically difficult to make, and the nations that currently do that, like Taiwan, Korea. Thailand and so in will defend those industries to their deaths.
And even they aren't that high value, the real value comes in designing those microchips, I'm unaware of a Chinese research department in any technical field.
Does China have a DARPA?
utter nonsense. you think globalization isn't a thing? amazing! if you believe that then there is no need to even discuss this any further....oh and Japan produced their own goods...and they did it with their own companies. your thought process on this is beyond screwed up. its down right screwy.
DeleteIt's the crap they teach you in MBA courses Sol.
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