Tuesday, October 21, 2014

Serious problems within the S. Korea's Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA)


via Donga.com
Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA) explains that the contract was signed since the manufacturer Lockheed Martin promised to resolve the engine defect until the delivery of F-35A and the U.S. government also guaranteed. However, it is still hard to understand why DAPA was in such a hurry to conclude the contract despite an obvious quality issue. As it requires spending enormous tax money, whopping 121 billion won (114.15 million dollars) per unit, DAPA should have pointed out issues for improvement and led the contract to our advantage. As FX project changed from tri-party competition system to a single-party negotiation, did it put the Korean government to an inferior position where it couldn’t say anything to the U.S.?
Let’s see the K2 (Black Panther) that DAPA calls a "high-end battle tank." Hard-kill anti-missile system that detects and hits attack from the enemy has been developed, but it cannot be deployed since it has a collision with the soft-kill anti-missile system, which is already equipped. During the recent parliamentary audit, lawmakers pointed out that the state-of-the-art submarines cannot operate under water for sufficient time due to fuel cell issues, and the spare ammunition will run out within a few days in case of war. It is quite worrisome to see the waste of budget and also the loophole of defense.
This year’s budget for defense is 35.70 trillion won (33.68 billion dollars), accounting for 14.4 percent of the entire government budget. If the government fails to secure efficient weapon system after spending enormous money, how will it explain to the public? Thorough investigation must be carried out into whether there might be any corruption by "Military-mafia," aiming rake-off from the weapon trades behind the scene.
The S. Koreans spend a whopping 14.4 percent of their entire budget on defense?  Amazing.  If the Europeans spent just half that percent then nut jobs world wide would tremble in fear of the free countries of the world.

I really need a definition of what they're calling hard and soft kill systems.  I'm assuming that its a Trophy type system for hard kill and maybe some type of spoofing/smoke grenades for the soft kill.  I'll have to dig into that one.

Onto the sub issue.  This is interesting.  That means that the S. Korean Navy probably isn't as formidable as I thought it was.

It appears that DAPA has serious problems and they might extend to the S. Korean military.



13 comments :

  1. Solomon

    > I really need a definition of what they're calling hard and soft kill systems.

    Hard Kill : Basically Korea/Russia version of Trophy.
    Soft Kill : IR Jammers and smoke dispenser.

    > Onto the sub issue. This is interesting.

    They are talking about German U-214's Siemens fuel cell system, which isn't as reliable as believed and is breaking down quite often.
    The domestic KSS-III uses a fuel cell system derived from Russian spacecraft + domestic fuel cell efforts.

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  2. The main idea is the belief a war will be short sharp and over before these systems run out of steam.
    Those subs will either be located and destroyed before needing re-fueled and the enemy destroyed before the need for any other follow up strikes.
    If those are required I would imagine the RoKs feel the US can still be counted on to at least supply the systems or be in on the fight.
    The Six day war is an example.
    The same with Tanks, an active hard kill for the first encounters followed by soft kill as the hard kill weapons are expended, the tanks too are assumed to be destroyed shortly after hostilities and replaced by US supplied tanks or a lower tier of second line systems to defeat NorK second line systems, if any.
    Throw away weapons systems.
    The ideal is the damage inflicted in a short time stops the attack, then the politician's get involved and static warfare ensues.

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    1. The ROK Navy assumes its subs will operate in a hostile water(around Tokyo) with heavy anti-sub patrols. Accordingly, it is critical that its subs must not come closer to surface to snorkel, because of world's densest hostile anti-sub patrols. And the API fuel of liquid hydrogen and oxygen cannot be refueled at sea, they must be refueled at home base.

      > replaced by US supplied tanks

      There are no US supplied tanks. Heck the ROK army isn't counting on the US Army being able to keep up with them during the blitzkrieg to Pyongyang.

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    2. Those subs are NOT going anywhere near Japan.
      They will hang off the NorK coast and engage anything going south or launch on anything traveling on the coast.
      No RoK formations will cross the DMZ and head North, why?
      CHINA.
      There were no US supplied tanks to Israel either.
      If the RoKs lose a great number of tanks, the US will ship it's tanks to RoK.
      That is where the US Supplied tanks will come from.


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    3. Zebra Dun

      > Those subs are NOT going anywhere near Japan.

      The KSS-III has an underwater endurance of more than 50 days and carries 12 rounds of ballistic missile VLS. This is a sub designed to operate against an enemy with 24/7 anti-sub patrol capability. Gues which that one is. China? Hell no. Japan? Bingo.

      > They will hang off the NorK coast

      You don't need to spend $1 billion on a 50 day underwater endurance sub for NK missions, because North Korean anti-sub patrol is non-existent.

      > No RoK formations will cross the DMZ and head North

      They do. Surprised you didn't kow. There are ROK subs patrolling north of NLL.

      Beside, it's very difficult to patrol Yellow Sea for a sub because of shallow water depth. In fact, a Chinese sub went down in the Yellow Sea when its propeller was caught by a fishing net and the engine caught fire.

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  3. Probably they are talking about Quick Kill

    http://raytheon.mediaroom.com/index.php?item=2251

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAaw3S56nhc

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  4. Superrhinoceront

    > Probably they are talking about Quick Kill

    No, K2 Hardkill Active protection system is indigenous.

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  5. hmm... after seeing the photo and video of ukrainian armor column totally destroyed by concentrated Grad rocket salvo, i have a niggling feeling that in the future these rocket artilery (cheap GRAD type weapons) will be the bane of modern armour.. not just roving helo gunship hunting tanks or fast movers plinking tanks, but truck mounted low tech Grad launchers that cheap to built enmasse and deploy..

    btw didnt the NOKs got a LOT of these ancient GRADs and various calibre of arty in their arsenal ? In my amateurish opinion, ROK military can defend their own country against NOK attacks , without american help/blood.. but ROK military will be slaughtered if they tried to launch ground offensive in North Korea..

    and i doubt very much that the NOK will suddenly launched an all out attack to south korea when the US forces pulled out.. thats just scare tactics to make the US military stay in korea..

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    1. rocket artillery has been the bane of maneuver forces forever. think about it. the first gulf war they took out entire grid squares. the future? not sure. the problem is that defenses are getting better. they can knock mortars out of the sky and the same should apply to rockets soon. the issue will be how long will it take lasers to make it to the battlefield.

      if lasers hit in the next 10 to 20 years then warfare as we know it will change. of course then we'll see hyper sonic rockets that will attempt to defeat systems by high speed but you get the point. its all move counter mover.

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    2. to buntalanlucu

      @Grad launchers that cheap to built enmasse and deploy..@

      Yeah, but there is a catch. In a railway freight wagon (Russian standard) only about 330 boxes with Grad rockets can be placed. One box – one rocket. It means only 8 full loads of f GRAD-launcher contains in a wagon. Logistic – is a weak point of GRAD’s ant-tank tactic.

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  6. If the South Koreans think they have problems with their Defence Aquisitions, wait till some korean defence attache here does a case study on India.

    14.4% of govt. budget on defence. Now that is waaay to high an expenditure for corrupt people in govt. and business to just ignore and pass up on. Especially when a corrupt official needs only one successfull deal to make enough money for 3 generations

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    1. @Especially when a corrupt official needs only one successfull deal to make enough money for 3 generations@

      Bggg. We have he same in Russia))))

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  7. I was wondering what kind of AT weapons do the North Koreans have. Any advanced Russian missiles spread out evenly over that large an organization would spell doom to any army that has to march to Pyongyang.

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