Thursday, January 22, 2015

Panorama of the aftermath of fighting at the Donetsk airport.

Thanks info-infanterie for the link!





9 comments :

  1. Ehhhh... the indecision of Ukrainians, now Russians go in to offensive to cut off the Debalcew, numerous attacks on other fronts. They should go to the offensive long time ago not waiting AGAIN for Russians to reinforce own forces in region with numerous heavy equipment, men and supplies. Not they need to repulse the new offensive...

    Only OSCE still believe in the "case fire"... they probably today again will put an info on website how many violations of "case fire" were in last day. Dumbasses.

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  2. Proof proof proof.... You know osce is on the Otan side...?

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    1. curious. why do you call NATO, OTAN?

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    2. He is a frog... they read it as Organisation du traité de l'Atlantique Nord.

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    3. Of course they are Frogi... of course they are...

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  3. Do you remember, pan, I promise to disclose my view about the situation& So I have some time to invest in it. Long story in short: to understand the situation – follow the money.
    At my take, current Ukrainian and Russian regimes are oligarchic and countries are capitalistic (wild-bazaar-capitalism, but anyway). So there is no any war in classical term – is a competition for markets and assets with collateral performance of political goals (but again political goals are caused with desire to keep authority for saving and rising capitals). And competition of Ukrainian-Russian oligarchs are just a local part of global capitalistic competition. There is no fundamental contradiction (in contrast to ISIS islamistic goals) inside the system. The main question is how manipulate by common people.
    In concerned case we have usage by oligarchs old historical-based markers (“Nazi” – “Russian occupants”) to fulfill current and strategic tasks of oligarchs. What can be the possible tasks of Ukrainian and Russian oligarchic clans:
    - Resolving of economic their countries’ problems with extreme and ultra-effective measures (but not popular), justified with cry “enemies are approaching” in TVsets.
    - Protecting oligarchs’’ place on the top of authority pyramid.
    - Getting more money inside the countries: Ukraine and Russia both cut government spending. Oligarchs (because of internal oligarchic competition in the countries) redistribute capital assets among oligarchs’ “tight circle”.
    - Getting more money outside the countries: Ukrainian oligarchs money in foreign countries and international institutes (controlled by Western oligarchs). Russian because of falling ruble got possibility to redistribute market-outlets inside Russia and some push forward international oligarchs in the markets.
    - Utilizing radical uncontrolled political elements in the countries with trivial sending them in jaws of the battle.
    If put aside some unimportant different in national character between Ukrainians and Russians the main diversity between Russian and Ukrainian oligarchic clans is:
    - Russian oligarchs have to flirt with Russian military clans who live in logic of war and stubbornly demand more military spending and “true” (according to the military views) decisions. In Ukraine during last 23 years after USSR’s collapse Ukrainians army was degraded by intent.
    - Ukrainians oligarchs are under total control of Western ones, but Russian oligarchs try to extend their territory of influence (in contrary to interest of Western oligarchs).

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    1. That is the interesting point of view, different approach for the "second bottom" of conflict. I presume it is not very "popular" point of view...

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    2. @I presume it is not very "popular" point of view...@

      Otherwise I can’t explain why Ukrainian army was screwed several times (obviously by intent their politicians) and Russian military do not attack on another places of Ukrainian- Russia border.

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