What is worrisome is that they have so far lasted further evading authorities than Tim McVeigh. But will they last as long as Dorner? Who knows, the future is unwritten.Yeah. How do you evade authorities? You head to the woods. Modern law enforcement world wide seems to be at a loss when it comes to operating in undeveloped areas. Dorner lasted for a couple of weeks hiding in the mountainous forest of the Big Bear area. Frein, the animal that gunned down two State Troopers evaded authorities for a weeks.
But anyone who has been sued by a Muslim for defaming the prophet, better carry a gun.
What do the two have in common? They only got caught once they went into "civilization".
Now we see the terrorist in France that appear to have left the urban centers and headed out to the wilderness (I don't know France so wilderness is relative).
What do we know for sure? We know that the terrorist are watching this incident carefully. They have probably studied police response to the above mentioned incidents as well as the Boston Bomber case. From my chair it seems that if terrorists can evade arrest for the first 24 hours, they will be able to continue to create havoc in a country for days (imagine if these terrorist chose to continue a killing spree instead of seeking escape!). The initial response is critical. After that all bets are off. And if they make it into the woods then it just got even harder.
UPDATE 1: HECATE confirms the hostage situation and says the following...
Just came out of morning briefing... Thing turned into hostage situation as two guys have been cornered by police and now entrenched in building with hostages.
This is going public as of now. Will give you more as it comes in.
Thee have been other retaliatory attacks as well as terrorist sympathizer attacks last night. Will send you details as soon as info is cleared
(I don't know France so wilderness is relative)
ReplyDeleteIt's an Europe Sol' and France is a rather big country. Lot's of forest, national parks, farming regions. You would be surprise how many those "wild" places you would find there. Some of "tight packed" nations like Dutch, Belgians or Denmark have rather small or almost non existing "wild" areas but France, Spain, Germany, Poland, we have some good places to... hide.
I hope this will not start to be the beginning of new forest partisans movement, this time against France itself.
Most police come from the city,and don't venture into the woods that much. In a class they made a point on 3 or so officer shootings where the suspect fled into the woods it took forever to find them. All three at that time had been kicked out of the military for being crazy. All had the most basic of training, but that have them the advantage in an open air environment. The only tracking class I have found for police is put on by the Feds and costs over $5,000 for local officers. I can't get approved for 2 nights at $40 a night at a motel 6 to go to a free gun school that would cost over a grand.
ReplyDeletethen that shit has to change. yeah. i'm the first to bitch about police militarization but this is an issue that we all should agree needs to be addressed. find a military base, Ft Hood or Polk if you're in the center of the country, go to Bragg or Lejeune on the east coast...Quantico or where ever 10th Mtn calls home for the upper NE and everyone can pile into 29 stumps or Pendleton on the West coast. live in guest quarters call in the feds to give the classes and make it a drive-able distance.
Deletehowever they do it, federal grants, increased taxes..whatever. this is training that must be given. it would pay off even for local crimes OR finding lost children or elderly ....this is too important to let a few thousand bucks per officer get in the way.
i'm really surprised that most LEOs don't have field (as in woods) time. i thought that would be a natural.
DeleteWell they are now showing the course as free, but the one they have showing is not at a Fletc facility with lodging. So even though its free you have air travel car rental then lodging. Here is a description of the course.
Deletehttps://www.fletc.gov/training-program/backcountry-tactical-tracking-training-program
Also I did go to a training taught by current swat, former marines,and a former ranger that consisted of very basic military open air movement. The bad thing is its only three days of training that few officers try to get. It is also hard to get time off or paid time to go to the trainings.
FLETC ought to take their training on the road then. if the USMC can have a Special Operations Training Group (SOTG) that certifies MEU's are capable and teaches tactics then federal law enforcement ought to have mobile training teams too. send them to all fifty states and teach the courses locally. oh and paying for air travel and rooming to learn your job better is more bullshit.
DeleteSeriously the only free training is from Alerrt,Fletc, and anything they can try to relate to narcotic training. Everything else generally cost money.
DeleteThe Spanish Rural Action Unit of the civil guard is very good at shooting terrorists in the wilderness, just ask the basque. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKLKFAJu_0A
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