Tuesday, March 24, 2015
Tannerite on the chopping block. Congrats YouTube gun idiots..
Read the story here, but the video is self explanatory.
I've been warning about making gun "tribal knowledge" freely available on the internet. I've bitched about idiots in the gun community misusing this product to make bombs to destroy old barns, IEDs to wreck trucks and then posting videos of the lunacy on the internet.
Now its about to come back and bite.
The problem?
I'm gonna have a tough time saying that the gun grabbers are going too far. The ability for any idiot in society to get ahold of this stuff is too big a danger to ignore. We saw what one crockpot "bomb" could do at a Marathon in Boston. Imagine what would happen if some terrorist scum decided to pack in 50 pounds of this stuff into a mega church in America's heartland?
This stuff is gonna get banned and people in our community are to blame.
Sidenote: I can already hear the push back. Guns and cars are as dangerous as Tannerite and they shouldn't be banned just because a few people have posted stupid stuff using them, so why should we ban Tannerite. Valid. But its really simple. A binary explosive is different from a firearm. Don't blame me. I predicted over a year ago that this would happen and this is just the end game to a concern that the FBI posted about 5 years ago. Put the blame where it belongs. Immature idiots on YouTube that do stupid stuff with training aids, not the messenger.
Goes back to just because you can doesn't mean you always should. There has been a lot of that as of late.
ReplyDeleteyep, but to be honest i expected better from the gun community. but yeah you're right. people are doing and posting shit that they shouldn't.
ReplyDeleteAs a bomb building material for terrorist purposes, this stuff really isn't that great. It's actually pretty bad for those purposes due to its relatively low RE factor and it's overall stability. There are far better materials out there for building a bomb locally in the US.
ReplyDeleteprobably true...BUT...people are only going by the destructive power that they see on YouTube. there probably are better ways to build improvised explosives but they're not being posted....however you do see trucks getting shredded and old barns being torn apart by people using Tannerite.
ReplyDeleteThat my friend is the difference.
But the whole point of tannerite is pretty much entertainment value. It is pretty much useless for demolition purposes. Lacks even a good use for the militia types. It really is only useful for shredding those trucks or blowing up barns on YouTube. I mean if you can't have fun with it what's the point of even having it. I understand the idea of trying to be discrete to prevent its banning, but a item that is only good for fun is going to wind up on YouTube pretty quick.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUycmJ-LU3s
ReplyDeleteyeah. thats nothing but fun and there is no way that this can be used by terrorists...especially when law makers see vids like the above.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVSecWR5YgY
yeah...i can't imagine tannerite being used as an improvised anti-vehicle device...
I never said it cannot be used in those ways, just that it is a extremely poor choice for them due to the fact that it requires being shot. Which is a pretty horrible detonation method. Considering that the widespread availability of ammonia nitrate in this country it is a poor choice.
ReplyDeleteammonium nitrate is tracked...or at the very least tagged. tannerite not so much.
ReplyDeleteThere are a large amounts of work arounds in the states that make it extremely easy to amass a large amount of ammonia nitrate with out raising red flags. I got a pretty good education on using explosives for saboteur purposes, and none of my instructors ever recommended using Tannerite due to its limitations.
ReplyDeletei would guess not unless your instructors were domestic terrorists. you can't get this shit overseas! and i know of NO state that has work arounds for getting your hands on a large amount of ammonia nitrate without it being tracked. even if you buy it at your local co=0p you better bet that the FBI is going to have a record of you buying it and if you don't have a farm that justifies needing it you're gonna get a visit from the farm boys and they'll be hopping around your house with AR-15's....if you're unlucky then it'll be US Marshals.
ReplyDeletethe point remains. tannerite got highlighted by idiots on YouTube and its gonna be banned. yeah you might do more damage with good ole gasoline and a bad attitude but tannerite is in the cross hairs and YouTubers put it there.
Said it before and i'll say it again: if you ban tannerite you have to bAn ammonium nitrate. I really doubt that'll happen due to the blowback such a ban would face from the farming industry.
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