Thanks to JW for this startling news!
via New York Times.
WASHINGTON — The Chinese government systematically dismantled C.I.A. spying operations in the country starting in 2010, killing or imprisoning more than a dozen sources over two years and crippling intelligence gathering there for years afterward.Story here.
Current and former American officials described the intelligence breach as one of the worst in decades. It set off a scramble in Washington’s intelligence and law enforcement agencies to contain the fallout, but investigators were bitterly divided over the cause. Some were convinced that a mole within the C.I.A. had betrayed the United States. Others believed that the Chinese had hacked the covert system the C.I.A. used to communicate with its foreign sources. Years later, that debate remains unresolved.
But there was no disagreement about the damage. From the final weeks of 2010 through the end of 2012, according to former American officials, the Chinese killed at least a dozen of the C.I.A.’s sources. According to three of the officials, one was shot in front of his colleagues in the courtyard of a government building — a message to others who might have been working for the C.I.A.
Still others were put in jail. All told, the Chinese killed or imprisoned 18 to 20 of the C.I.A.’s sources in China, according to two former senior American officials, effectively unraveling a network that had taken years to build.
Two things.
1. Everyone wants to relieve the cold war with Russia as the big bad. They're not. Culturally we can come to an understanding and maybe even be friends. I don't mean to sound racists but I don't believe the same can be said for China. They are a threat. My belief is that Russia simply seeks to be treated as an equal with respect while China wants to see our bones ground into dust.
2. This happened during the Obama watch but its remained secret till now? Could we be seeing the Trump supporters fighting back against the Anti-Trump cabal? If it is as I'm suspecting then the dangers of this fight is about to get beyond nasty. Consider this an unintended consequence of the fight.
Either way this is terrible news.
The message has been received in China. No one will lay it on the line for us. Somehow the Chinese have penetrated our intel networks and can be assumed to have us by the family jewels.
China is drinking our milkshake.
Radical solution but a necessary one? Expel Chinese students and start extreme vetting of Chinese coming to America. Our open society cannot compete on this playing field until we get tough.
NOTE:
You know who is to blame for the threat that is China? The American people, our representatives, and our corporations. Russia has sold China weapons? Big deal, we gave them the industrial capacity to become a 1st rate power almost overnight. Boeing, Sikorsky, Lockheed, Pratt and Whitney and many others didn't actually sell weapons but they DID sell dual use gear that they stole, reverse engineered and used to develop their own kit. You like shopping at WalMart? Those low prices for widgets that you don't need and have to replace in a year (assuming you use them as intended in the first place) fueled their industry. The low prices that you got from China caused you to turn your nose up at US produced products that accelerated the offshoring of manufacturing that the govt supported. Only now when its way too late is anyone screaming. Instead of getting pissed what do most of us do? Listen to nonsense that it can't be reversed. That its the modern age. That robotics will take over and that whole industries have to die. I find that amazing. They said the same thing about the oil industry and the lie about peak oil caused an artificial spike in the price that killed everyone's pocket books. So instead of getting pissed we listen to the experts that continue the lie that "free trade" is good for America while at the same time offering nothing but more pain to the American worker/citizen that is fueling everyone's economy but our own. You say Russia is the enemy? Look in the mirror! Look at your Congress Critters, your govt and the so called experts. We've all been lied to. I only hope a day of reckoning finally arrives.
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