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This explains so much. While the Patria AMV was in the contest to become the "ACV" (before Lockheed Martin backstabbed the hell outta them...that's the one tip I got that I didn't run that I wish I did), the base vehicle did prove to be amphibious.
But its all about the turret isn't it.
If you remember, the ACV was first sporting the larger Kongsberg turret and then one day we saw it with the micro version.
It was all about it being too heavy for water ops.
From my chair the ACV has much less freeboard than the old AAV. I haven't seen the ACV-30 in the water but ya got to figure its gonna be worse.
The AA Bns are gonna be worth watching in the future. They might have run down an evolutionary dead end. Can you imagine? An amphibious combat vehicle that needs a ship to shore connector cause one version is too heavy to swim?
Oh and make no mistake. Its gonna weight out quick. The dream of a ship killing Marine Corps IS an evolutionary dead end and land combat will be demanded of the Corps. Add on armor, APS and other gear will have us with a 45 ton wheeled vehicle that can't swim in any version.
Mark my words.
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